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    slide fire

    Anyone here buy one of these? A dealer was selling them at a gun show for $359. He had a video of him emptying a 48 round (i think it was) magazine. He claimed that the muzzle doesnt lift up with the slide fire,like a regular full auto. He said he actually preferred the slide fire to the military full auto rifle,as it is more controllable.
    It would be some expensive fun. I dont think I would want to shoot too many 20 round mags in the simulated full auto slide fire. You could burn up alot of shells and money in a very short time.
    I would also be some concerned about wearing out my one and only AR in a hurry. It would be fun to shoot like that once in awhile though.
    Just wondering if anyone here bought one or tried one. The dealer said He sold every one He brought except He had a couple left hand units left.

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    I do not have one, but all reviews are positive!!!
    Installation is fairly simple--- remove PG bolt/PG and stock, attach adapter to grip, and attach the SF stock.

    Tony

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    my buddy has a shop that sells them they cant keep them in stock positive reviews from everyone thats bought them. Im thinking about puting one on my ar if i can learn how to save money lol

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    I put one on one of mine and it does what they say it does. I need to fine tune my technique, though.

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    My son and I tried one out today. We both shot 20 rounds at about 25 yards. Kept them im about a 2 ft group.
    It dies work like they say. It shoots basically as fast as a full auto but it would take a good deal of practice to keep them in less than 2 ft I think. The barrel on my Colt was too hot to hold. My son wan't to shoot more but I told him I wanted the barrel to cool down.I was concerned that it might ruin the chrome lining or the rifling so we stopped after 2 mags.
    The Colt worked flawlessly but Im still leary about shooting it too much like that. Yes, it is fun but I think Ill shoot it sparingly in that mode.
    Doe anyone know if the military M16 has a different barrel and different internal parts than the semi auto model 6920 Colt?

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    The LE6920 is listed under Military and law Enforcement models, and they are usually equipt with the M-16 bolt carrier, BUT I have seen them with .170 fire control pins (some with .155) and receiver block. It should have a 1/7 NATO barrel. Other than that, there should be no other M-16 fire control parts in them. I had, and sold one with .155 pins, but it had the receiver block, not the pinned in one, just the extra metal.

    I have absolutely no experience with a slide fire. Never heard of it.

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    I just bought a used one, should show up this week... I will give a range report once I try it out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retired W4 View Post
    The LE6920 is listed under Military and law Enforcement models, and they are usually equipt with the M-16 bolt carrier, BUT I have seen them with .170 fire control pins (some with .155) and receiver block. It should have a 1/7 NATO barrel. Other than that, there should be no other M-16 fire control parts in them. I had, and sold one with .155 pins, but it had the receiver block, not the pinned in one, just the extra metal.

    I have absolutely no experience with a slide fire. Never heard of it.

    Thanks for the info.I must check to see what size pins mine has.
    I am wondering if shooting it in essentially full auto rate would be overly abusive to its parts and barrel. After 20 rounds at that rate, the barrel is screaming hot. Cant be very good for it. I wonder if the barrel lining is degraded with that much heat and friction.Obviously, shooting that way alot will prematurely wearout the gun. Maybe a 20 round magazine in full auto once a month or so would not have any appreciable affect on life span? I really dont know how detrimental this would be to the gun.
    This is the only AR I own. I hunt with bolt action rifles and rarely shoot more than a dozen rounds at a time through them. So at best, the barrels get pretty warm but not so hot you cant put your hand around them.
    I wonder if anyone has any data on longevity of the Colt AR Barrel. Would the rifling and other internal parts be still in good shape after say 5000 rounds, 10,000 rounds?? Maybe you or someone here who has shot one alot can
    comment on this. Thanks

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    Capstan,

    There is no difference in the quality of the parts on M4's and 6920's. Barrels and bolts are all HPT'd, MPI'd, and are trashed if they fail to meet mil-specs. I wouldn't worry too much about wearing your carbine out. Just keep it lubed and replace high-wear parts at reasonable intervals and you should be OK. Also keep in mind that AR15 barrels are easily replaced by competent armorers.
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    I agree with everything William B says. One of the keys, as he said is "keep it lubed". The military operators' manual or the instruction book that comes with the gun gives excellent advice on where and how much lubrication should be applied. The Colt M-16/AR-15 family was built to take it as long as it's properly maintained. A great reference on the history of problems encountered in developement is "The Black Rifle". A great example is the use of the wrong powder. The military was told not to use it, but they did anyway. Another example was the faulty advice the Army gave early on concerning lubrication. A lot of guys paid the ultimate price because of both of these faults, and gave birth to many misconceptions about the M-16. "You can tell they're swell, they're Mattel" used to be heard a lot in RVN in the days I was there, even though by that time most of the problems had been cleared up. Any kid who grew up hunting knew that any rifle had to be properly lubed to function correctly.

    BTW, this slide fire rig must be completely different from the old Hell-Fire thing that used to be sold. I don't know.


 

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