Umarex Colt (Walther) C 4 22 cal carbine

[dan01]

This is my final finished item....No more add ons.........This is one sweet shooting rifle.029.jpg

[saxoholick]

I mounted my scope on a 1" picatinny riser. I keep the scope mounted to the riser, and I just pop off the handle, pop on the riser\scope setup, and I'm ready to rock.IMG00361-20120525-1952.jpg

[dan01]

Great looking set up.......................

[halfmoonclip]

This is my final finished item....No more add ons.........This is one sweet shooting rifle.Attachment 25979

At the risk of a public lynching here, IMHO, the Smith is the way to go for a .22AR. I like the looks of the Umarex rifles (they are really handsome), but the S&W has the controls in the right places and readily accepts AR trigger parts; I've a Geissele SSA in mine.
Don't have any Smith center-fire ARs, but their .22 has a lot going for it. Nice stick, Dan.
Moon

[dan01]

I broke down and mounted one of my red dot scopes as far to the front of the handle as it would go.........Took it and my S&W 2206 pistol to the range and wasted a 555 box of Winchester WildCats with no FTFs.......Got a good zero and then great groups out to 25yards ( as far as the range is set up for............I ate up a silhouette target with the pistol from 10,15, 20, and 25 yards.

On the Smith and Wesson 15 22 rifle forum a few guys were bad mouthing the Winchester WildCat ammo.........I finished a fist full of left overs then a 555 bulk box from Walmart for $18 bucks with no FTFs at all in the Colt or the pistol.....My new 15 22 had several misfires with the Wild Cats.....Maybe S&W 15 22s are finicky....I will find out soon..........................

[halfmoonclip]

You can't expect a rifle to eat junk. Let me suggest that the Federal AutoMatch is perhaps the best of the bulk ammo.

Alternately, bite the bullet and buy the CCIs.
Moon

[haggis]

The only real complaint I've heard about the Umarex rifles is the weight and smoothness of the trigger system. A friend has one, and I installed a new trigger and sear for him, as well as cleaning up the sear/hammer interface. He reported that the trigger was much smoother (and somewhat lighter), and it shrunk his 25 yard, 10 shot groups down to where they could be covered by a quarter. They had been about 2X that size.

Buck

[dan01]

My Umarex (Walther) Colt C 4 and my GSG AK 47 22 were my first military 22 cal look a likes.........The 22 cal AK 47 is as tough as my 2 7.62x39 Bulgarian milled receiver rifles and shoots accurately with out fail..............................I love my Colt C 4...It is all metal and is more like the military versions than the 15 22.......My S&W M&P 15 22 MOE is a very accurate and reliable, but is made mostly of polymer except for the barrel....I can't see this lasting long....................My number one choice is my Umarex HK MP5 SD....This has to be the most fum to shoot 22 cal military clone hands down......


Notice that I did not bad mouth any......THe Sig 522 is great, but I just don't like it's looks.......The Ruger 416 is basically a Walther Colt.........The Mossberg is a cheap rifle that I hear shoots well........I don't know much about any others.

[halfmoonclip]

I have several thousand rounds thru' my 15-22, which is set up as an exact clone of my Colt Government Carbine; stock, trigger, and sights. Not crazy about the polymer, but the parts that actually rub on each other run on steel, so it's not apt to wear out anytime soon. The one advantage to the polymer, for young shooters, is the light weight. It's an easy rifle to hold, and the light weight is nice if I take it on a walkabout.
I was really taken with the Colt version on looks alone, but then they had to build it with controls in wrong places. The 15-22 makes a great trainer for its centerfire brethern.
Colt could knock one out of the park by making a high-quality .22 conversion to fit on AR lowers, but they have chosen not to do that. From what I've seen, the other .22 conversions are far pricier than they need to be, leaving S&W lots of room to market a whole rifle for less money. The economics of the thing baffle me; there's no particular reason that a .22 AR conversion need be a penny more expensive than a Ruger 10-22.
Moon

[Colt 45]

I've purchased two CMMG conversion units for a under $200 that work great. Neither one has ever jammed or given me any problems whatsoever.

CMMG AR-15 Conversion Kit

Max

I have several thousand rounds thru' my 15-22, which is set up as an exact clone of my Colt Government Carbine; stock, trigger, and sights. Not crazy about the polymer, but the parts that actually rub on each other run on steel, so it's not apt to wear out anytime soon. The one advantage to the polymer, for young shooters, is the light weight. It's an easy rifle to hold, and the light weight is nice if I take it on a walkabout.
I was really taken with the Colt version on looks alone, but then they had to build it with controls in wrong places. The 15-22 makes a great trainer for its centerfire brethern.
Colt could knock one out of the park by making a high-quality .22 conversion to fit on AR lowers, but they have chosen not to do that. From what I've seen, the other .22 conversions are far pricier than they need to be, leaving S&W lots of room to market a whole rifle for less money. The economics of the thing baffle me; there's no particular reason that a .22 AR conversion need be a penny more expensive than a Ruger 10-22.
Moon