This thread by DFaris seems better than the one on the first page for documenting the different generations of Python grips as well as fakes.
http://coltforum.com/forums/showthre...rip+generation
Here are some more threads for the Shooting file. The sub-tab is Factory Ammo, which is of interest especially to the non-handloader -
.45LC - 45 Long Colt "Factory" Ammo Discussion
.45LC Personal Defense Loads - Personal Defense Ammo in SAA
.44-40 - http://www.coltforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34922
.41LC - .41 Long Colt Ammo
.45ACP/SAA - SAA .45 ACP Cylinder
.45 Black Powder - 45 SAA black powder cartridge questions (again) and Ammo Questions
I'd probably also have another Shooting sub-tab for Handloads. And I'd suggest that someone should give thought to rearranging all these suggestions and entries into one easy to use thread or posting. It needs to be Admin to do it for obvious reasons.
Given the pretty heavy readership and traffic here, at some point I'd also consider dividing this board up between "Single Action Revolvers" and "Double Action Revolvers".
Last edited by Shack; 04-01-2011 at 11:08 PM.
This thread by DFaris seems better than the one on the first page for documenting the different generations of Python grips as well as fakes.
http://coltforum.com/forums/showthre...rip+generation
COLT DA FRAMES EXPLAINED (dfariswheel DEC 20,2011)
Prior to WWII Colt named it's frames, usually after the first model to use it.
As example, the small frame for the .38 Special was called the Police Positive Special frame even if the actual gun was a Detective Special.
This was used for the Police Positive Special, the Police Positive Special Target, the Detective Special, etc.
The small frame made for short cartridges like the .38 S&W was the Police Positive frame. This was used for the Police Positive, the Banker's Special, the Police Positive Target, etc.
The medium frame as used on the Official Police and Officer's Models was known inside the Colt factory as the "41" frame since the original frame size was chambered in the old .41 Long Colt. Most people called the medium frame the Official Police frame.
This was used for the Army Special/Official Police and the Officer's Model Target.
The large frame was the New Service, used for the New Service, the Model 1909, the Model 1917, and the Shooting Master.
After the war Colt assigned letter codes to frames
While it's not technically correct to call pre-war Colt's by their post-war letter codes, the frames are actually the same so it saves making errors since everyone will understand what you mean if you use the letter code.
The "D" frame was Colt's small frame used on the Detective Special, Diamondback, Cobra, Agent, etc.
The "E" frame was Colt's medium frame as used on the Official Police, Officer's Model Match, and early Trooper .38 and .22 models. These had a firing pin mounted on the hammer.
The "I" frame was the "E" frame only with the firing pin mounted in the frame instead of on the "E" frames hammer. Since these are the same action except for the location of the firing pin, these are usually called the Colt "E&I" frame. This frame was used for the 357, later Trooper models, and the Python.
The "J" frame was the new transfer bar safety-ignition system medium frame introduced with the Mark III series of 1969. This was used on the Trooper Mark III, Lawman, Metropolitan Police, Official Police Mark III, and the very rare Officer's Model Match Mark III.
The "V" frame was a slightly modified Mark III action. This was used for the Trooper Mark V, Lawman Mark V, and the Peacekeeper.
The AA" frame was the "V" frame with a new profile barrel and made originally in stainless steel. This was made as the King Cobra.
The "MM" frame was Colt's first large frame since the New Service was discontinued in 1942. This was used for the Anaconda.
The "SF-VI" (Small Frame-Six Shot) frame was Colt's new small frame made of stainless steel with a transfer bar action. This was used for the SF-VI, DS-II, and Magnum Carry.Last edited by dfariswheel; Yesterday at 11:49 PM.
Yup, great thread, I answered some of my own
Yup, great thread, I answered some of my own questions by following the links. This thread is a good reference thread!
For the Cleaning File, sub-tab Nickel -
nickel cleaning
Surface Cleaning Nickel
DS nickel cleaning project.
Cleaning Nickel SAAs
Polishing Nickel Revolver
Last edited by Shack; 02-03-2012 at 08:32 AM.
Is there a list by Model number somewhere out there?
Here is one less a little formatting. It requires two posts.
Model Number Model Name Type Caliber Barrel length Finish
AA3020 King Cobra Revolver 357 Magnum 2" SS
AA3021 King Cobra Revolver 357 Magnum 2-1/2" Bright SS
AA3021CC Combat Cobra Revolver 357 Magnum 2-1/2" Bright SS
AA3040 King Cobra Revolver 357 Magnum 4" SS
AA3040E King Cobra Enhanced Revolver 357 Magnum 4" SS
AA3040E King Cobra Revolver 357 Magnum 4" SS
AA3041 King Cobra Revolver 357 Magnum 4" Bright SS
AA3060 King Cobra Revolver 357 Magnum 6" SS
AA3060E King Cobra Revolver 357 Magnum 6" SS
AA3061 King Cobra Revolver 357 Magnum 6" Bright SS
AA3061E King Cobra Enhanced Revolver 357 Magnum 6" Bright SS
AA3080 King Cobra Revolver 357 Magnum 8" SS
AA3620 King Cobra Revolver 357 Magnum 2" Blue
AA3640 King Cobra Revolver 357 Magnum 4" Blue
AA3660 King Cobra Revolver 357 Magnum 6" Blue
CB1840 Cowboy Revolver 45 Colt 4-3/4" Blue / Case Colored Frame
CB1850 Cowboy Revolver 45 Colt 5-1/2" Blue / Color Case Frame
D1425 Detective Special Revolver 38 Special 2" Blue
D1425BB Detective Special Revolver 38 Special 2" Blue / Bobbed Hammer
D1425LNK Detective Special Revolver 38 Special 2" Electroless Nickel
D1426 Detective Special Revolver 38 Special 2" Nickel
D2442 Police Positive Revolver 38 Special 4" Blue
D3425 Cobra Revolver 38 Special 2" Blue
D3426 Cobra Revolver 38 Special 2" Nickel
D5140 Diamondback Revolver 22 LR 4" Blue
D5141 Diamondback Revolver 22 LR 4" Nickel
D5160 Diamondback Revolver 22 LR 6" Blue
D5160EDB Diamondback Revolver 22 LR 6" Blue - Engraved Colt Gold Colored Filled
D5161 Diamondback Revolver 22 LR 6" Nickel
D5520 Diamondback Revolver 38 Special 2-1/2" Blue
D5540 Diamondback Revolver 38 Special 4" Blue
D5541 Diamondback Revolver 38 Special 4" Nickel
D5560 Diamondback Revolver 38 Special 6" Blue
G2261 New Frontier Revolver 22 LR 6" Blue
G2271 New Frontier Revolver 22 LR 7-1/2" Blue
G2461 New Frontier (Dual cylinder) Revolver 22LR / 22 Mag 6" Blue
G8243 John Wayne Commemorative Revolver 22 LR 4-3/4" Blue
I1986 Double Diamond Python Revolver 357 Magnum 6" Bright SS
I3020 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 2-1/2" SS
I3021 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 2-1/2" Bright SS
I3040 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 4" SS
I3040CS Python Elite Revolver 357 Magnum 4" SS
I3041 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 4" Bright SS
I3060 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 6" SS
I3060CS Python Elite Revolver 357 Magnum 6" SS
I3060ESS Python Silver Snake Revolver 357 Magnum 6" SS
I3061 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 6" Bright SS
I3080 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 8" SS
I3081 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 8" Bright SS
I3620 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 2-1/2" Blue
I3630 Combat Python Revolver 357 Magnum 3" Blue
I3630CP Combat Python Revolver 357 Magnum 3" Blue
I3631 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 3" Nickel
I3640 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 4" Blue
I3640CS Python Elite Revolver 357 Magnum 4" Blued
I3660 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 6" Blue
I3660CS Python Elite Revolver 357 Magnum 6" Blue
I3660H Python Revolver 357 Magnum 6" Blue - With Custom Tuning and Sights
I3661 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 6" Nickel
I3680 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 8" Blue
I3682 Python Revolver 38 Special 8" Blue
I3683 Python Revolver 38 Special 8" Nickel
I3840 Python Revolver 357 Magnum 4" Electroless Nickel
Model Number Model Name Type Caliber Barrel length Finish
J1245 Lawman MK III Revolver 357 Magnum 4" Blue
J1247 Lawman MK III Revolver 357 Magnum 2" Blue
J1248 Lawman MK III Revolver 357 Magnum 2" Nickel
J4261-MN Trooper MK III Revolver 357 Magnum 6" Electroless Nickel w Pachmayer Grips
J4262 Trooper MK III Revolver 357 Magnum 6" Nickel
J4288 Trooper MK III Revolver 22 LR 8" Nickel
J4362 Trooper MK III Revolver 357 Magnum 6" E Nickel
J4584P Trooper MK III Revolver 22 Magnum 8" Electroless Nickel
MM3040 Anaconda Revolver 44 Magnum 4" SS
MM3040DT Anaconda Revolver 44 Magnum 4" SS
MM3060 Anaconda Revolver 44 Magnum 6" SS
MM3060DT Anaconda Revolver 44 Magnum 6" SS
MM3061FE Anaconda First Edition Revolver 44 magnum 6" Bright SS
MM3080 Anaconda Revolver 44 Magnum 8" SS
MM3080PDT Anaconda Revolver 44 Magnum 8" Ported SS
MM3080RT Anaconda Realtree Revolver 44 Magnum 8" Camo
MM4560 Anaconda Revolver 45 Colt 6" SS
MM4580 Anaconda Revolver 45 Colt 8" SS
P1540 Model P (SAA) Revolver 32-20 4-3/4" Colored Case / Blue
P1541 Model P (SAA) Revolver 32-20 4-3/4" Nickel
P1550 Model P (SAA) Revolver 32-20 5-1/2" Colored Case / Blue
P1551 Model P (SAA) Revolver 32-20 5-1/2" Nickel
P1570 Model P (SAA) Revolver 32-20 7-1/2" Colored Case / Blue
P1571 Model P (SAA) Revolver 32-20 7-1/2" Nickel
P1840 Model P (SAA) Revolver 45 Colt 4-3/4" Blue / Color Case
P1841 Model P (SAA) Revolver 45 Colt 4-3/4" Nickel
P1850 Model P (SAA) Revolver 45 Colt 5-1/2" Blue / Color Case
P1856 Model P (SAA) Revolver 45 Colt 5-1/2" Nickel
P1870 Model P (SAA) Revolver 45 Colt 7-1/2" Blue / Color Case
P1940 Model P (SAA) Revolver 44-40 4-3/4" Blue / Color Case
P1941 Model P (SAA) Revolver 44-40 4-3/4" Nickel
P1950 Model P (SAA) Revolver 44-40 5-1/2" Blue / Color Case
P1956 Model P (SAA) Revolver 44-40 5-1/2" Nickel
P2870 SAA (black powder frame) Revolver 45 ACP 7-1/2" Blue / C Level Helfricht Engraving
P4671 New Frontier Revolver 357 Magnum 7-1/2" Nickel
P4840 New Frontier Revolver 45 Colt 4-3/4" Blue
P4870 New Frontier Revolver 45 Colt 7-1/2" Blue
P4940 New Frontier Revolver 44-40 4-3/4" Blue
SD1020 DS II Revolver 38 Special 2" SS
SD1030 DS II Revolver 38 Special 3" SS
SD1040 DS II Revolver 38 Special 4" SS
SD2020 Magnum Carry Revolver 357 Magnum 2" Satin SS
SD2020FE Magnum Carry First Edition Revolver 357 Magnum 2" SS
SF1020 SF-VI Revolver 38 Special 2" Matte SS
SF1022 SF-VI Revolver 38 Special 2" Matte SS / With Bobbed Hammer
SF1023 Colt Special Lady Revolver 38 Special 2" Bobbed Hammer / Bright Stainless Steel
SF1040 SF-VI Revolver 38 Special 4" SS
SF1041 SF-VI Revolver 38 Special 4" Black Stainless Steel
V2244 Trooper MK V Revolver 357 Magnum 4" Nickel
V5041 Boa Revolver 357 Magnum 4" Blue
V5061 Boa Revolver 357 Magnum 6" Blue
V6442 Viper Revolver 38 Special 4" Blue
V6443 Viper Revolver 38 Special 4" Nickel
V8345 PeaceKeeper Revolver 357 Magnum 4" Matte Black