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    VERY Dangerous & "Tall Tale" of .357 Magnum Diamondback

    Found this for sale in a local internet advertisement:

    "Colt Diamondback 357 & 38 Special purchased from the Jewel Box in Phoenix by my father. The salesman at the Jewel Box told my father that it was his job to inspect shipments of newly arrived weapons and that when he inspected a shipment of nine Colt Diamondback revolvers eight were 38 Special only. This Diamondback was a 357 & 38 Special when received from the factory. This weapon was shipped to the Jewel Box in January of 1967 and was purchased by my father in March of 1967. The salesman told my father that he thought this was probably a prototype or experimental revolver and but didn't know why it was sent to them. Diamondbacks were manufactured from 1966 to 1988 so it was reasonable to think they could order more of the 357. They never could of course. This weapon will chamber a 357. I have fired 357 in this gun. This gun has had less than a box of ammunition shot through it and is near perfect condition. This weapon may be unique in the public domain. $20,000.00 firm. No trades."

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    Ugh. Again, apealing to the buyers of tales, not firearms.....
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    just from comparing the tale with the pics of the label, letter, and butchered barrel etching..
    there is so much obviously wrong with that!
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    Even though you have fired 357 mag. out of this gun, the frame is to fragile to handle load for extensive time and eventually will give. I wouldn't want to be the one shooting it when it gives out. I would not advise shooting 357 mag. in this gun. Even the cylinder is thinner and may rupture eventually. Just my thoughts others may or may not agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snakeman99 View Post
    Found this for sale in a local internet advertisement:

    "Colt Diamondback 357 & 38 Special purchased from the Jewel Box in Phoenix by my father. The salesman at the Jewel Box told my father that it was his job to inspect shipments of newly arrived weapons and that when he inspected a shipment of nine Colt Diamondback revolvers eight were 38 Special only. This Diamondback was a 357 & 38 Special when received from the factory. This weapon was shipped to the Jewel Box in January of 1967 and was purchased by my father in March of 1967. The salesman told my father that he thought this was probably a prototype or experimental revolver and but didn't know why it was sent to them. Diamondbacks were manufactured from 1966 to 1988 so it was reasonable to think they could order more of the 357. They never could of course. This weapon will chamber a 357. I have fired 357 in this gun. This gun has had less than a box of ammunition shot through it and is near perfect condition. This weapon may be unique in the public domain. $20,000.00 firm. No trades."

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    If you pay for this gun by check, be sure to allow time for it to be forwarded to Sparta, Tennessee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMKCOLT View Post
    Even though you have fired 357 mag. out of this gun, the frame is to fragile to handle load for extensive time and eventually will give. I wouldn't want to be the one shooting it when it gives out. I would not advise shooting 357 mag. in this gun. Even the cylinder is thinner and may rupture eventually. Just my thoughts others may or may not agree.
    I disagree. The frame is not too fragile to handle .357 Magnum pressures. The cylinder may be, since as far as I know, Diamondback .38 Special cylinders are not heat-treated like .357 Magnum cylinders are. The cylinder will not rupture with the first .357 Magnum round, but repeated firings will reduce the margin of safety. The frame may eventually stretch a bit with repeated firings of .357 Magnum rounds, but will not fail.

    The .38 Special and .357 Magnum use the same diameter of case, so the cylinder walls are not thinner. The chamber is just longer with the .357 Magnum cartridge.

    As I have seen these terribly wrong listings over the years, it never ceases to amaze me what "Bubba" has done to his guns over the years. This one is high on the scale of ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeColt View Post
    The .38 Special and .357 Magnum use the same diameter of case, so the cylinder walls are not thinner. The chamber is just longer with the .357 Magnum cartridge.
    Compared to the I frame cylinder which was designed to handle the 357mag round, the cylinder on the D frame Diamondback is most certainly thinner. If the D frame cylinder is not heat treated like the I frame cylinder which you believe is the case, then it's only a matter of time before you rupture it shooting magnums. Whether that damages the frame or not in the process is anyone's guess. I don't think the cylinder would hold up long enough to stretch the frame, but that's probably what would happen over time if it did.

    The main thing is, not safe to fire with magnums, and this gun is a '67 which is before Colt rated the D frames for use with +P 38spl.
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    6" Python, 357mag, Blue, '75-------------------5.5" SAA, 357mag, Blue C/H, 2015
    2.5" Python, 357mag, Blue, '72-----------------2" Cobra, 38spl, Blue, '61
    4" Diamondback, 38spl, Blue, '77---------------2" Detective Special, 38spl, Blue, '68

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    High to the tune of $20K ridiculous!
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    Oh my! The story on this gun is so deep, I had to put my waders on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkay62 View Post
    Oh my! The story on this gun is so deep, I had to put my waders on.
    Fins snorkel and mask is more like it.
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