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    Quote Originally Posted by DWalt View Post
    First I ever heard of +P .32 ACP. I have a hard time believing it is even on the market due to the zillions of crappy old .32 autos out there. Would be a terrific liability for the ammunition manufacturer. No matter, I wouldn't use it in ANY .32 auto, new or old - it's pure stupidity to do so unless you have a death wish. There are .32 ACP rounds of supposedly good expanding bullet designs, so why not just use those?
    Agree, especially with the incredulity of there even being a +P rated 32 ACP. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWalt View Post
    First I ever heard of +P .32 ACP. I have a hard time believing it is even on the market due to the zillions of crappy old .32 autos out there. Would be a terrific liability for the ammunition manufacturer. No matter, I wouldn't use it in ANY .32 auto, new or old - it's pure stupidity to do so unless you have a death wish. There are .32 ACP rounds of supposedly good expanding bullet designs, so why not just use those?
    I haven't heard of +P .32 ACP either, but I wasn't thinking just about loadings specifically so labeled. Cor-Bon, for example, loads ammo close to the SAAMI limit rather than 20% under it, so I would consider their hotter defensive ammo potentially injurious to older pistols. I took the original question in a generic sense rather than a literal one: Is hot ammo OK? I vote no.
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    For those doubting the existence of +P-rated .32ACP ammunition, take a look at the Buffalo Bore line.

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    I don't know the Buffalo Bore practice, but be aware that +P is a SAAMI designation, and as such, a +P .32 ACP would be listed in the SAAMI standards. So is there a SAAMI spec for +P .32 ACP? Or is Buffalo Bore simply raising velocity slightly (but still keeping it within normal SAAMI pressure limits) and just using +P as advertising puffery? I don't have a copy of the latest SAAMI specs, but there is no +P .32 ACP shown in my older set, which is from about 2005. Unless it is in SAAMI, there is no official +P .32 ACP. Of course, any manufacurer can load any cartridge to whatever pressure it wants and call it whatever it wants, as SAAMI is a set of voluntary standards, not a law. They could even call it ++P++. But if Buffalo Bore is doing this, they run a great legal liability risk if a pistol blows up and hurts or kills someone while using their ammunition (by the way, +P+ is NOT recognized by SAAMI).

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    I agree with the others: Why use over-pressure ammo in an old gun? The 1903 is a beautiful piece that can still be well appreciated today, but wouldn't put modern gasoline in an old car or drive it as I would drive a new car.

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    Don't do it, man.
    Get a bigger gun.

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    I shoot my own low powered handloads in my1903, wouldn't shoot the modern ammo.

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    thank you all who posted answers, I do appreciate it. Based on your answers, I am not going to try the Buffalo Bore +p .32 ammo in my .32 1903 Hammerless.

    Now I am just regretting that I already bought 2 boxes or 40 rounds of the ammo already. It cost me about $25 per box. Money down the drain 'cause I don't plan on buying any modern .32 auto. unless I get rich or something, I already own a .1911 .45, a S&W .357 mag and a Ruger snub nose .38.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod5591 View Post

    Now I am just regretting that I already bought 2 boxes or 40 rounds of the ammo already. It cost me about $25 per box. Money down the drain 'cause I don't plan on buying any modern .32 auto.
    Sell the ammo. You should be able to get most of your money back out of it.

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    The gun was designed to the old pressure, you want a cannon, buy a cannon, case closed. Buy some REM Silvertips and call it a day but I can tell you from experience you still got nothin'. A good fireplace poker is an even match for a 32, the poker probably has more fist shot stops.
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