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    He called the seller and the seller said the upper was the controlled part. It's strange to me that it is though as there is no serial number to be found anywhere on the upper parts, I examined the parts yesterday. The only serial number I see is prominently on the lower, which is definitely a full auto lower, fully functional. The old Bushmaster Assault rifles and ARM pistols had a serial numbered upper half so that was the controlled part of those. The lowers were not controlled and had no number.
    Anyway, this is a hot potato I don't want anything to do with and I don't think he should either.
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    FAL rifle parts kits are legally sold with the lower intact which includes the full auto hammer trigger sear set. The original upper receiver, which is the controlled part, has a part that allows those parts to function full auto. The kits that I have seen only retained the front portion of the upper receiver where it was threaded to the barrel. The semi auto receivers or upper receivers which are legally available domestically have a filler part that prevents the hammer trigger sear from functioning in the full auto fire mode. While I am not familiar with the SAR 180, I am guessing it is a similar configuration.
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    In my opinion it's best to follow the law on NFA guns. Over the years I bought and had fun with several full autos back when they were cheap. The process was slow to get them and even slower today by months but the fun is worth it. Our gun club puts on a full auto shoot once a year now for folks to shoot pieces of history that are just too cool.
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    With very few exceptions (the M1-M2 Carbine, the part with the serial number is the controlled part.
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    Chat room legal advice is not much of a defense if you are charged with a federal crime. If you are in doubt, find a lawyer in your community with a firearms law background. They exist. Get an opinion. Written if possession is permissible. Otherwise, its just not worth the risk. There are too many ways your purchase can pop up on a federal radar screen. My $.02.

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    True, there have been purchases made where the ATF comes to your door and takes the gun because the right cuts were not made to dewat it. Even when you think you are good it still depends on state laws too. Better than talking to a lawyer is your long time NFA dealer. Even if you call BATFE you can get wrong answer from the bueacrats as they have a turnover in help. Move slowly and stay legal.
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    Calling BATF is almost as good as talking to the IRS for tax advice, unless it comes in a letter signed by someone with apparent authority.

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    Right now you can go into a local gun store and buy most any handgun or rifle and be approved the same day in most states. Yet to buy a supressor that can't hurt anyone it's a 10 month wait for the bueacrats of the BATFE to approve it.

    Edited to add, however if you are used to waiting on Colt to build guns then ten months is nothing lol lol
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    Is this legal?

    Its only illegal when you make it a working firearm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SBH View Post
    Its only illegal when you make it a working firearm.


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    Not in all states, in some states having the parts is illegal.
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