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My lonesome dove...

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November 15 2016 the day my father died. 88 years old and lived life his way, working his ass off even though he did not need to. Decorated Korean war vet, sargeant in a heavy weapons platoon, 105 recoilless rifles and browning water cooled M.G.s. Every man in his platoon was killed two weeks after he returned home when a artillery shell hit their bunker. I'm lucky to be here.

My lonesome dove... dad made no plans as to where he was to be buried, so it was decided to put him on the ranch, top of the hill 360 degree view with the Huckelberry mountains, Calispell mountain, Mount Dominion and 49 degrees ski resort for a view.

Then the state and county stepped in.

You can't do that they said, I said bullshit.


You can't do that unless you pay us a lot of money they said. O.K.



So we hired a attorney and a surveyor and we plotted a acre of ground out and had it registered then went to the county for multiple hearings and received a variance and paid them much money.

Then we formed a corporation, filed with the state and created a bank account in which we must deposit a LARGE amount of cash to be held forever that we can never touch.

Now we are due to have more hearings and fill out forms that no one in the state seems able to find and pay the state more money.

In the meantime I've dug a hole in the rockiest ground on the ranch, 5' by 8' and all of 6' deep and wrapped the whole acre in five strands of barbed wire.

In the meantime Dad waits in cold storage and wonders if I'll ever get off my ass and get this done.
 
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My condolences and it it unfortunate that we cannot bury our loved ones on our own property with just a simple legal permit. I told my wife to just get her tractor and dig a hole for me. She has access to my accounts anyways, no one would know I was gone. That way I could stay on the farm with all my dogs, goats, alpacas and other critters that have been buried here.
 
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Attitudes toward the physical remains vary greatly. I believe that the soul left the body at passing and what remains is not important. Your father's remains are not "wondering" anything.

"Dust to dust" comes to mind. Hasten the conversion of the remains to dust and cremate them. While I do not know for sure, I suspect your state does not require a burial permit for ashes. Assuming it does not, then do as you please with the ashes, which could include a marked "burial site" on your property.

I admire and honor your devotion and commitment to your cause of burying your father's remains where you want. Good luck and God speed.
 
#11 ·
Even E Washington has become infected eh. The less government knows about what you plan on doing the easier life is. Don't worry, eventually they'll bleed enough money from you to satisfy their thirst. Sorry for your loss.
 
#13 · (Edited)
God bless your Dad- thanks much to him for his service to our country.

Those who faught the Communists in Korea, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia and elsewhere faught a enemy just as evil as the National Socialist Nazi you know whats in WWII. Sometimes worse.

We owe them all thanks and respect.

I won't say what I think about the idiotic over regulation gone mad- by the not so great current government of our once great country. Only will say I am very sorry that you have to deal with the stupidity.

Just got banned at another website for speaking the truth- lol
 
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This is the worst, in Poland, about 8 years ago. I had a good friend over there, P., and knew his wife well also. I won't mention her name, it's her business. My friend had to have an operation for brain cancer. He was but 32 and had three kids. My friend's brother went along to meet the surgeon. He knew the system. The doctor said unfortunately he had no dates open for surgery. The brother-in-law mentioned some extra money beyond what the government would pay and asked if that would help. The doctor said it would and found a date immediately. My friend had his operation.

The good effects lasted only a month and then he died, home. His wife and my friend had always gone to the same church and she wanted her husband buried there. But the priest said there was a rule. You had to be buried in the church of birth. She got very angry and the brother-in-law said they would go again together and to let him handle this. They went and the brother-in-law asked, "Would a donation to your church allow my brother to be buried where his wife wants?" And he said it would, it would indeed when the brother took out a good sum of cash.

All this bribery was not because doctors and priests were immoral; it was a left-over from the Communist days. People had to live that way. But the wife hated the country after all the extra pain this stuff had caused her and her kids, and she moved away to England with the children. I saw her two years ago. She is well and has wonderful kids. My friend would have been proud of all of them, God rest his soul...
 
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Hmm...Well, none of my business of course, but then you have posted this to a public forum, so I'm assuming you are "open" to other's thoughts on the matter...

Under the described circumstances, I think I would have just have had your father cremated, scattered his ashes where I damn well pleased on my own land, avoided the back-breaking work of digging that large hole, as well as the cost and the annoyance of the bureaucratic 'bullshit' we all must deal with today, and had it over and done with!
 
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