Some Random Thoughts on the future of Firearms, where we came from and going???

[B.C.]

I am not a dealer, My list of guns is under 10. BUT I did stay at the Holiday Inn Express lastnight. (and I am in finance) For a true "bubble" market to occur, the inventory must still be in production or created, like housing or the newest tecno-whiz thingy from china, or the ammo craze a couple of years ago, or even oil (but that includes governments and polotics so we will ignore that one for now)

So I do not think that the price will crash back down to MSRP prices any time soon simply becuase they are no longer made. But what WILL Happen is, as stated before, they big pocket buyers will get a belly full and prices will adjust some. But another factor not mentioned yet is all the new gun shows on television right now, Sons of Guns, Gun Smoke in denver, Auction house shows.....they are ALL essentially HEAVY advertising for anything gun related. So I say that there are now millions of new customers that were never that into guns before, but they are now deemed in style by mass media and also having the MOST LIBERAL/MARXIST government ever, has driven the market bonkers!!!

Rember the "custom chopper"/motorcycle craze? where idiots were spending $50-$100k on chrome dipped penis extentions? (pardon my french) And everyone with a garage and a catalogue was a "custom" bike builder?

I will predict when the new "thing" comes along, the gun TV shows will slow....we will get a different POTUS and the market will addjust accordingly.

[Shooter_55]

As Kid Sopris states above, whatever the market will bear. Our entire economy is predicated on supply and demand, and the gun business isn't any different. If there's a mad rush to buy a certain model (Python or other collectable) that you just have to have, the seller has you where he wants you. It is a reverse snowball downhill effect. You pay $1k, the next guy pays $1.2k, the next guy pays $1.5 and so on. Sooner or later, I think the market will have to level out. If it doesn't, then only the more affluent will be able to afford these, of which I am not. Regardless of what was said in the movie "Wallstreet Never Sleeps", greed is not good.......for most.

[walkingjim]

when i go to the gun shows i would guess 8 out of every 10 guns there are under 600 dollers.the 5000 or 6000 market has nothing to do with it.great collectables will still get higher its the mid to junk guns that will get hurt the most. todays the day to buy a 100 year old in great shape saa colt they will not be cheaper in the years to come i do not believe.

[feralmerril]

I have been out of the game for quite awhile, not sure I was ever in the game. I have a respectable collection that I aquired in the 60s through the 80s or so. I had a good old gun collector tutor that worked where I did but his home and family were a 100 miles away, me being single I rented him a room. We talked guns all the time and he would bring a fresh satchel full to show me about every three weeks when he would make a turn around weekend. Duke even owned several volcanics etc. Anyway I like winchesters, colts and smiths. I was single with a good job and bought what appealed to me and at the time I WASNT buying them to turn over and make money nor was I "theam" collecting or filling "gaps". You guys that are buying "investment" guns ever think much about what really, really will happen to them when you croak? Not too many women out their like carol wilkerson or whatever her name is. Our widows for the most part wont know how to sell them for a huge price like you may. That and they may remarry a unwashed unworthy non gun guy that either abuse`s them and or sells them cheap and the process starts all over again. I could be wrong, but in my eyes many years ago I thought old black powder various colts were underpriced compared to the single action armys, yet they looked and seemed like they actualy had seen more real history than the newer safe queens. To me, I am more drawn to a relic that has obvisely seen and been used in history than a safe queen that some tweed wearing collector with a roadster cap wearing white gloves might show you. Well, those are my random thoughts.

[AEROCOLOR]

I really feel like we all BillCline1a.jpgare looking to invest money in tangible assets rather than take the chance of market investments. Purchasing collectibles is much more private, has little tax burden and so far if purchasing smart seems to be working. I know i`m hanging on to every boxed Colt for now to see where this boom lands.

How`s this for a random thought?
A buddy and I were conversing last night about the possibilty of our society going to a credt/debit only money system(no paper money printed) and how that would infringe on our abilty to freely pursue hobbies and collectibles privately. He had some sobering insights on the impact of such a system. Would make gun control very easy also.

I deal in antique cars/prewar hotrods & trucks and the last five years we have seen much greater control being sought over titling, taxes and licensing of such to the point that I rarely buy cars from certain states. Just not worth the hassle and red tape.

[Armyphotog]

Well, let's not get asking price confused with selling price. Oh, I'm sure there are a few deep pockets out there that may pay a high price because money doesn't mean as much to them as acquiring what they want. Nevertheless, the market is still dictated by the majority and the price will adjust to the current market. I've seen a lot of those guns catch dust waiting on one of those fellows to show up.

[ohiobuckeye]

The internet we are currently playing on is probably the largest single contributing factor to the rapid rise in gun prices...Especially so for the out of production models we seek that are no longer seen in most of the gun shops. Prior to the internet it took a lot of searching via driving, phone calls, gun shows, and leg work to track down and buy the desired Colt or S&W. Now, anybody can sit in the comfort of his home and search the internet for just about anything his little ol' heart desires and find it in a matter of minutes. Collectors seek a fixed number of guns that will never again be in production, and the internet has increased the number of potential buyers several thousand fold and still growing. Simple supply and demand economics guarantee prices will rise. The deep pocket buyers have always been around...now the internet has given the collecting hordes instant access from anywhere in the world.

[manderson]

After all, you cannot shoot anything or anybody with a Rembrandt.

You might be able to chop off an ear with a Van Gogh.

[MtnSpur]

The internet we are currently playing on is probably the largest single contributing factor to the rapid rise in gun prices...Especially so for the out of production models we seek that are no longer seen in most of the gun shops. Prior to the internet it took a lot of searching via driving, phone calls, gun shows, and leg work to track down and buy the desired Colt or S&W. Now, anybody can sit in the comfort of his home and search the internet for just about anything his little ol' heart desires and find it in a matter of minutes. Collectors seek a fixed number of guns that will never again be in production, and the internet has increased the number of potential buyers several thousand fold and still growing. Simple supply and demand economics guarantee prices will rise. The deep pocket buyers have always been around...now the internet has given the collecting hordes instant access from anywhere in the world.

Ain't that the truth. There are folks with pockets so deep that they make islands in the ocean for resorts. What's a few $100 billion to them?

[pyshtrvr]

Ya mean like this one?

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