One of the "other" Colts..............

[dant]

model 1914 Norwegian 11.25mm made in 1928, and then refinished later (parkerized)

[rayb]

Here's one from 1942, along with a 1942 Sears US holster




rayb

[dant]

Ray, thats neat, nice "package" I heard of a guy has one around here that is 'Nazi Proofed' but have not seen it yet....very interesting.

[Holdin McGroin]

Here's an Argentinian, the smokestack is just a trick barrel bushing. The long safety and ball hammer are aftermarket. Yes, I filed the grip safety for the hammer, after all it's not a Colt.

[Abe Anglin]

well, no matter ....

here's a mint one (98% condition and 100% unmolseted)

I even have the three numbered mags for it!

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[Oyeboten]

Wow...nice to see some of the Norwegian Colt 1911s!


I also am very fond of the Hispano Suiza ( "H.A.F.D.A.S.A.") rendering a-la M1911, even though they of course were not a Colt, and, not part of any Licensing arrangement.

Far as that goes though, am I correct to recall that the only two M1911s made elsewhere under Licence, were the Argentine "Systema Colt Modelo 1927" and the Norwegian "Kongsberg" M1912/M1914?

[rayb]

Ray, thats neat, nice "package" I heard of a guy has one around here that is 'Nazi Proofed' but have not seen it yet....very interesting.

Thank you. It is my favorite pistol, a gift from a (+) friend.

It does not have any Nazi type markings, and the serial number does not fall within the "Nazi" serial number range ( it is before that range of sn's ).

I'd like to find another one, they are great pistols.

rayb

[rayb]

Wow...nice to see some of the Norwegian Colt 1911s!


I also am very fond of the Hispano Suiza ( "H.A.F.D.A.S.A.") rendering a-la M1911, even though they of course were not a Colt, and, not part of any Licensing arrangement.

Far as that goes though, am I correct to recall that the only two M1911s made elsewhere under Licence, were the Argentine "Systema Colt Modelo 1927" and the Norwegian "Kongsberg" M1912/M1914?

That is what I understand (made elsewhere under license), but my knowledge is based on limited reading. I share your interest in the older foreign "clones" (using current terminology/slang).

rayb

[Holdin McGroin]

Is it Argentinian, or Ar'gen'tine?

Don't know don't care, are you an english teacher or just a general pain in the ass? As for molestation it's just a South American fake Colt, just like your's. I wouldn't dream of harming a real Colt.

[Oyeboten]

I think it is 'Argentine'.


Rumor has long had it, that the Argentine 'HAFDASA' ( Hispana Suiza made ) rendering of the Colt Model of 1911 used better Steels and had stronger Frames, Slides and Barrels, than Colt did.

This may also apply to the 'Systema' ( which came later, and, presumably was in a position to learn from the 'HAFDASA' production ) as well.

Anyway, far as I recall, the 'Systema' were made under Licence from Colt, and with Colt's blessing, and, with Colt receiving Royalties.

The 'Systema' has always been highly regarded ( as have the unlicenced and somewhat different mechanically 'HAFDASA' .45 ACP Pistols ).