.45 acp +p

[chrislind2]

I thought I could find a discussion about +p .45 acp, but nothing found.
Anyone use it in a New Agent? I did not know they made it until I read an article online and the said it pushed a .45 to over 1000 fps.
Do not want to damage my new gun. I guess I need to find out what Colt says about the subject.

[Kid Sopris]

Newton's Third Law comes to mind:

"Third law: The mutual forces of action and reaction between two bodies are equal, opposite and collinear."

I don't own a New Agent, But I don't shoot + P's in my full size 1911.

[chrislind2]

Yea, that's kinda what I thought. I'll save the +p's for my revolvers, and my cheap semi-auto's. Never really was that excited about them anyway, but always wonder if it's recommended or not. Shot +p's in my Ruger GP100 38 special and could hardly tell the difference between them and my reloads.
From a 1911 Colt manual.
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So they don't say no, but they don't give a clear yes either. Think I will stay on the save side of this and avoid the +p.

[haggis]

I'm not encouraging you to do anything, but the problem with really high pressure in a 1911 is the unsupported chamber. However, that can be addressed with a change to the brass. A standard steel 1911 (Kimber in my case), can shoot .45 Super (which is significantly higher pressure than +P), say 230 grains at 1200 fps, by simply changing the recoil spring to 24 or 25 pounds. Ace Gunworks (developer of the .45 Super) tried to convince people that special modifications to the gun were required for that kind of pressure. That was just a sales ploy on their part. .45 Super brass (thicker, stronger web area in the case) and a heavy recoil spring were all that were needed.

I don't know if .45ACP +P has strengthened brass or not.

Buck

[Oyeboten]

What Bullet Weights are associated with the "+P" Ammunition?

[Kid Sopris]

I believe you will find them from 185 grs. all the way up to 230 grs.

[1911-Brewer]

I don't think I would shoot +p in any aluminum framed 1911. At least not on a regular basis. Now If it was just to test feed reliability for my carry ammo. I don't think 20 or 30 rounds would be to harmful.

[WIL TERRY]

I don't think I would shoot +p in any aluminum framed 1911. At least not on a regular basis. Now If it was just to test feed reliability for my carry ammo. I don't think 20 or 30 rounds would be to harmful.

GUYS....let me note here that 45ACP+P ammunition is NO-BIG-DEAL !!! There were such loads well over 50 years ago [ NOT called +P though..] that shot 230GR pointed HP at 950FPS and I am here to tell you they were truly at 950FPS. Nobody gave a hoot in hades about shooting 'em in any gun chambering 45ACP. I never EVER heard of 'em hurting a single pistol though it might have happened as in those days; if that did happen you threw the SOB in the trash and bought a new pistol[ GLORY BE !!!]
SO.....you know what does trash an aluminum frame though sometimes.......the feeding of sharp edged HP bullets up the aluminum feed ramp which eventually sort of dig in and form a divit in the feed ramp. NO-BIG-DEAL as you should have had a ramped barrel fitted to a lightweight frame anyways. ME...I will ALWAYS pick a lightweeight frame if it is available on a pistol I want---ALWAYS ---even on full sized 1911 pistols where it really shines in the "light' department. MY custom lightweight 9x23 fullsize 1911 has a ramped barrel and has had the CRAP shot out of it and stripping the pistol and looking closely you can hardly tell it has been shot much atall. There is NO WEAR on the aluminum frame from the slide's movement.
I use to work for two different ammunition companies and of the latters shot up ALL their 45ACP+P seconds in every and any 45ACP pistol I could get my hands upon. NEVER HAD PROBLEM ONE, FOLKS.
ONE of the most puzzling things to old time shooters like me is all you young guys evidently think modern guns are made outta bubble gum or something and are gonna fall apart anyday now. LEt me tell you something : THE NEW GUNS ARE BETTER FIT OF HARDER TOUGHER MATERIALS THAN ANy- ANY- ANY OF THE OLD GUNS; ANY !!!!!!!!And I have never been able to wear out so much as one of the old guns, all of which I still shoot.
AND so it goes....

[Oyeboten]

I believe you will find them from 185 grs. all the way up to 230 grs.

Thanks...

I never gave any thought to '+P' myself ( other than I did not like them in .38 Special far as the few times I tried them )...but, I do re-Load and I appreciate the option of having intentional Cartridges, whether up or down in Bullet Weight and FPS from the average.

Personally, for the M1911 or Gov't Model, I always liked plain "Lead' best, and, no reason why a Hollow Nose Lead variaiton of the RNL could not be re-loaded to perform well, for that matter ( though finding a Mold for that might not be easy...and or I have not found one yet anyway.)

I guess Carry wise, most will prefer to have Factory Ammunition though...


I think my Carry Ammunition for my Gov't Model is Remington Hollow-Point Jacketed s'posed to be for LEO something or other, ( have not looked at the Box in a long time to refresh my memory on just what it is ) which is a fairly snappy Cartridge, but, not a '+P' though.