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    Ar15 scopes

    Do you think the fad for huge adjustable knobs on the compact AR scopes will end soon? I am getting tired of waiting for it. So many nice scopes out there...then they put those huge adjustable knobs on them. I like what ACOG puts on theirs, then again I cant justify +1000$ for a scope.
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    I've recently purchased a Barska 4X20 on Amazon. I don't have it yet. Reviews look promising for a budget optic. It looks virtually identical to the Colt 3X20 but is 3/4" longer.

    https://www.barska.com/optics/rifle-...by-barska.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by dandak View Post
    Do you think the fad for huge adjustable knobs on the compact AR scopes will end soon? I am getting tired of waiting for it. So many nice scopes out there...then they put those huge adjustable knobs on them. I like what ACOG puts on theirs, then again I cant justify +1000$ for a scope.
    If you’re talking about fat and not tall knobs then the reason is for quick adjustment under less than ideal conditions. My basic rule of thumb is that the scope should be comparable in price to the gun it will be mounted on. I’ve been known to deviate from that rule either way, but not by much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 824tsv View Post
    I've recently purchased a Barska 4X20 on Amazon. I don't have it yet. Reviews look promising for a budget optic. It looks virtually identical to the Colt 3X20 but is 3/4" longer.
    Thanks, but 20mm doesnt work on my SOCOM...the front sight ghosts. I need 24mm or bigger objective diameter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smutt View Post
    My basic rule of thumb is that the scope should be comparable in price to the gun it will be mounted on. I’ve been known to deviate from that rule either way, but not by much.
    Very much so. Back in the days of stereo equipment when you bought a receiver/amplifier, turntable, tape deck and speakers it was standard advice to reserve about 50% of the entire purchase cost on the speakers. No matter how good or powerful the rest, if you cheap out on speakers it will sound less than good.

    In photography with cameras with interchangeable lenses, advice is always don't cheap out on the glass.

    The same goes for rifle scopes. Don't put a flea market Tasco on a Weatherby...put glass on a rifle that not only compliments the rifle but will accomplish the desired use and hold up long-term.
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    I like the colt 3X/4X scopes. I prefer the 3X for rapid target sighting. These are colt branded before they took on collector status and price. I also have an early acog 1.5X on my M16A1 with a light machinegun upper. Love it. When you put quality optics on your firearm, it becomes a wonderful marriage of optics and firearm of which you feel when shooting them. I too thought acog were over priced until I used one.
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    Aimpoints or Acogs is what I usually wind up with after driving myself crazy shopping.
    Still haven’t found the ‘right’ one for my .308 SBR though.
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    Speaking about ACOG's, does anyone have experience mounting and shooting an ACOG 1.5x16 on an SP1? I have mounted an Aimpoint T2 in a special low Israeli carry handle mount and found that the center of that optical sight was a bit too high. My eyes are fading too, so red dot sights aren't that great for me. The mount for the ACOG has a hole through it to allow the shooter to switch to the iron sights without removing the ACOG, so I can see how high the center of the ACOG reticle lies above the line of the iron sights - a bit lower than the mounted T2 - but I'd like to hear from some one who has experience with the rig I'm talking about, an ACOG 1.5x16 bolted directly into the carry handle. Most of my range time is high power space gun, but I really like getting out shooting my SP1's. I use an overhead or top mounted sling with the old Vietnam era attachments that go thru the front sight base and around the top of the butt stock, a Geissele SSA-E, all works well in those "tactical' courses too. Maybe the ACOG would be nice.
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    I had a chance to play with my Barska 4X20 scope. I shot this target yesterday out to 50 yards. It was easy to zero and it's held it's zero after (3) 100 round range sessions. Looks like it may be a decent scope for the money.

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    This is one of my "short range" AR's. I originally outfitted it with a night vision capable EOTECH. While I liked that platform for its extremely quick aquisition to target I had a chance to refund it to the company after owning it for 10 years at $200 more than I paid for it new. With that money and an extra $200 I outfitted it with this setup. Mount is the LaRue Tactical SPR 1.5, possibly the best integrated flat top mount available ($200). Scope is the Leupold VXR Patrol 1.25X4X20. It has an 8 brightness setting red dot in the center of the crosshairs which are hash marked both vertically and horizontally. The nice thing about the red dot is if the gun isn't moved for 10 minutes it automatically turns itself off. However as soon as there is movement of the gun it automatically turns itself on at the previous brightness setting that it was set to. At 1.25 power it's a both eyes open scope and at 4 power it's good out to 300 yards for me. It's true that you get some ghosting of the front sight on the lower power setting but I really don't see it anymore when I'm shooting, the red dot really makes it irrelevant. Total setup was $700.
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