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    Question Heritage Edition Walker 2nd Gen - Question concerning presentation case

    I have a question concerning my 2nd Gen, Colt Walker Heritage Edition. Mine is C Company No. 582. Did all of the Heritage Edition Walkers come with the book and wood presentation case or were those optional? When I bought mine a while back from Cabellas it was never fired and in the original black cardboard box with gold label. I tend to be an overkill specialist so the Walker always was my favorite of the old Colt percussion revolvers. I'll never be able to afford an original so the second gen. will have to do. Any info. y'all have concerning the Heritage Edition Walkers will be much appreciated. By the way, I was very lucky and found the correct wood presentation case at a garage sale, it is used and not perfect, but, at least it is the correct Colt case. I have been told the three digit serial numbers are more desirable for collectors but I wouldn't know if that was true. Here are a few photos:
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    In addition to the walnut case you found, the 'Colt Heritage Commemorative' edition came with a, walnut bookrack and a leather bound edition of 'The Colt Heritage" serial numbered to the gun. There were 1853 of the sets made.
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    I have the book rack but no book. I have seen a lot of these in the original black cardboard box but not with the wood case or book and that is why I asked if the wood case was optional. These have been around long enough that I reckon people forgot about the box and book that went with the revolver when they passed it on or it was sold at an estate sale. Being that everything isn't perfect from a Collector's perspective and the cost was low enough, I'm considering shooting this Walker instead of buying an Italian Walker clone to shoot.
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    Personally, I would buy an Italian replica to shoot and preseve the Heritage Walker... They arn't making any more of those but the Italian jobs will still be made in 10's of thousands.
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    Though it won't be serialized to the gun, the book can be found on Gunbroker.com (see listing no. 500905641).

    Some additional info on the Heritage Walker:
    a. serial number range: 1 - 1853 (as fingersmcgee indicated).
    b. manufactured: June 1980 - June 1981.
    c. model no: F-9006.
    d. original cost: $1,475.
    e. current value: NIB = $1,250, 100% = $1,000, 98% = $650.

    I personally don't shoot my 2nd generations, but.............guns are meant to be shot. As you noticed in item 'e' above, the gun does have some value. IMHO. If you are not a collector and plan on doing some shooting, you may want to sell this gun and use the money to buy 2 Uberti's or Pietta's.

    Is that a Colt 1860 Army Stainless Steel in your picture below the Walker? If so, don't shoot that one.

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    In response to your comment on a 3-digit Walker Heritage serial number.

    A 3-digit serial number in the Walker Heritage model is not any more desirable to a collector than a 1-digit, 2-digit, 3-digit, or 4-digit. The serial number range is from 1 - 1853.

    But, on the standard production Walker model (F-1600), there is a small premium on a gun with a 5-digit serial number as compared to one with a 4-digit serial number.

    4-digit serial number:
    a. manufactured: June 1980 - April 1982 (2921 quantity).
    b. original cost: $562.
    c. current value: NIB = $1,100, 100% = $950, 98% = 750.

    5-digit serial number:
    a. manufactured: May 1981 - Sept 1981 (245 quantity).
    b. original cost: $562.
    c. current value: NIB = $1,300, 100% = $1,150, 98% = 925.

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    Thanks for the info. Don't worry, I know better than to shoot the stainless 1860. It is new in box never loaded or fired. It would be pristine if the idiots in the gun shop would have not spun the cylinder every time they showed it to someone before I bought it. I tried to educate them about turn marks on collector revolvers. Fortunately, on a stainless, their turning of the cylinder did less harm than it normally would have.

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    I wonder if that Heritage Walker above is a real Colt? I have two 1860 Stainless Army's. One with the box, one without. Both are unfired. Rick
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    "Real Colt" that is loaded question and I think one where a Colt enthusiast's "truth" will be his opinion. As far as I understand 2nd gen Colt percussion revolvers, they were the last made to Colt standards that will "Letter" to Colt. For me, that makes it a "genuine" Colt enough for my purposes since a shootable original Walker is way beyond my pay grade. In the case of the Heritage Series Walker, it is an F series second gen model F9006 according to the original box. My stainless 1860 is more or less same condition as your photo which I assume is the unfired one. I have vintage original first gen Colts too. I have a Patterson and what I have been told is a First Model Dragoon that are both original 19th century and both safely shootable. The Patterson and the Dragoon both belonged to my Great Grandpa and I'll get around to posting pics of those sometime - those revolvers have not been seen by anyone but family in at least 120 years and are unusually good condition. I also have some first gen 1860 Army revolvers, some still shootable.

    I have made my decision concerning shooting this Walker. I was at Cabellas today and examined an Uberti Walker and was less than impressed with its quality. I realize my "Colt" Walker has at least some Italian parts in it but, despite that, you do not need to be an expert to appreciate how much better the quality is compared with a current production Uberti. Being that I'm old enough now to feel my mortality on a daily basis, I have decided to shoot the Walker I already have so I can truly enjoy it. My Walker cost me less than $500 not counting the wood case and it is excellent but not perfect condition. Those factors also were a large part of my decision. My stainless as new in box 1860 Army will not be shot.

    As I said, I am an overkill specialist with handguns. The photo is of my Walker, 1860 Army and what I really shoot on a regular basis, my BFR in .45-70 which is essentially a Colt SAA on steroids. (Actually, it is probably more accurate to say a Super BlackHawk on steroids) I have custom BFRs in a few calibers you would not expect in any handgun. My .45-70 BFR has a second cylinder for 450 Marlin and a third for 458 SOCOM.
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    You are correct.
    The F series second generation and all the third (Signiture) series were made for Colt outside the Colt factory....... A bit like the original Walker in 1847.. So you could say that Colt never made a Walker.
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