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    I am not a Percussion Gunsmith (1849 Pocket)

    I am not a Colt Percussion Revolver gunsmith...

    ... and I shouldn't play one on the internet. But what did I have to lose?

    A few weeks ago, you folks helped me to evaluate the authenticity and approximate value of an 1849 Pocket model for a fellow collector.

    https://www.coltforum.com/forums/col...-revolver.html

    It had a pretty serious problem. The hammer would only catch in the 1/2-cocked position. Thus, timing and lock-up were non-existent. So I bought it for a fairly reasonable price.


    I'll get some pics and explain the trouble shooting in the next post.
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    First, let's start with the pistol. It appears to be all matching. Bluing is mostly worn, but it still has a hint of case coloring, and the silver is fair on the brass.






















    As stated previously, the hammer would not fully cock. I had never disassembled a percussion revolver before, but decided to pull it apart.

    I was amazed, by the boogered spring screw heads and other tool marks, that someone had been in there before.

    After assembling without springs, I discovered that the problem still existed. So then I pulled the hand and bolt out, and the hammer would set firmly on the trigger. Then I re-installed the bolt, and it was still good. But when I put the hand back in, there was no full-cock function.

    A little closer inspection, and I could see that the pin which holds the hand to the hammer was passing too far through the hammer and blocking the bolt from locking. A quick hit on the pin with a prick punch and reinstall stopped that problem!

    But.. when fully assembled, it would only time and lock on five of the six cylinders. And I found another problem on the cylinder teeth. I think the gun was born with this pending issue.

    The average gap between the teeth on five of the cylinders is about 3.85mm, and one gap was only 3.13mm. The hand could not push the cylinder far enough forward for the bolt to lock.

    Someone had already been there, aggressively, and filed the snot out of the gap between the teeth.



    Again, I had nothing to lose, and I just cleaned up the mess the best I could with a jeweler's file. But I also addressed the small gap, and filed the sides of the teeth until it opened up enough to allow the hand to engage lock-up with the bolt.




    Now, the hammer fully cocks, the timing is good, and the lock-up is tight!

    I could shoot it. But I probably won't.
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    The next problem can't be fixed with a file and prick-punch.

    The locating pins for the barrel to the frame are broken, missing and messed up



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    HI martin08
    Nice little sleeper you have there ,these revolvers were well used as a protection tool way back then, and you have done a good job on bringing it back to working order. Well done and keep the forum up to date on your progress. Thanks for joining the forum and your pictures of your restoration project. Kind regards, ALSS.
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    Great thread, thanks for posting. That cylinder sure took a beating, but I bet the gun could be functional. Yours was produced just a couple years after mine, which can be seen here....
    https://www.coltforum.com/forums/col...om-1849-a.html

    Maybe I can get some more thorough photos of mine soon.
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    I'm always amazed as to why these cylinders are so beaten up on the rear. Only thing I can think of is having the hammer slip off the thumb when trying to lower it in the safety pins. Maybe that is why so many of them have been completely hammered flat, especially with the heavy mainsprings these originals have.
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    Very interesting thread. Thanks for the information and the excellent pix.
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    Wow!

    Fun project!

    Nice looking old Colt too...

    Good luck with getting the Frame to Barrel Locating-Pins re-done...that is important of course.

    This fellow is very good, and can likely help if you get stuck -

    Services ? Goons Gun Works
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    Thank you, folks. I did forget one picture of the barrel address - Hartford, CT


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    Good job!! I LOVE seeing the serial inked in on the grips! I just picture some worker actually picking up a pen, dipping it into the ink well, and applying the number there...the human touch! And the gun looks good. You have done careful work so I am sure the frame pins will be no issue for you.
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