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    Opinion of this 1849 please

    Hi Guys,
    I just bought this Colt Model 1849 at auction and it's a bit of a mystery;

    The serial number is 106000 but it doesn't run in the Colt data base, 100000 to 109999 should put it as 1855 (106001 comes up in the Colt data base as 1855)
    to make matters worse, it's a 6 shot and the cylinder is marked as 41735; 41735 searches as 1852 (I don't think that they were making 6 shots in 1852) and 141735 searches as 1858 (I know that they often skipped the first digit on the cylinders) - I hate to think replacement , but maybe that's what I'm looking at. Period replacement? Factory mis-matched as they transitioned from 5 to 6 shots?
    Other than that, the revolver is in pretty amazing condition, the cylinder scene is pretty much 100% as is the sliver plating on the frame, the cylinder bluing is probably 80% plus and the bluing on the barrel is also 80% plus and still looks shiny and almost like Colt's "Royal Blue" of Python fame. I paid $2445 Canadian ($1834 USD).

    So....Any thoughts?
    Colt Model 1849 (ser 241735 built 1863, paid 33) (1).JPG

    Colt Model 1849 (ser 241735 built 1863, paid 33) (3).JPG

    Colt Model 1849 (ser 241735 built 1863, paid 33) (4).JPG

    Colt Model 1849 (ser 241735 built 1863, paid 33) (5).JPG
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    It is very attractive.
    With the non matching #'s the cylinder can only be a replacement .

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    Nice Pocket. I think a mismatching serial number is as worse as you think it is yourself.

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    There is something really wrong with the cylinder of this Colt, since the 6 shots 1849 pocket was first produced after 1860.

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    Looking at the cylinder S/N, do I detect a 6 which was over stamped with a 1? Who ever stamped this S/N on the cylinder spoilt a decent early Colt by their stampings on it. Have a closer look at my comments on the cylinder and report back to the forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALSS View Post
    Looking at the cylinder S/N, do I detect a 6 which was over stamped with a 1? Who ever stamped this S/N on the cylinder spoilt a decent early Colt by their stampings on it. Have a closer look at my comments on the cylinder and report back to the forum
    It does look a little funny , but I don't think that it's an over stamp.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patbar View Post
    There is something really wrong with the cylinder of this Colt, since the 6 shots 1849 pocket was first produced after 1860.
    Right...I need to get into my Colt book but what I can say is that it does cycle and lock-up properly....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lupothebutcher View Post
    Right...I need to get into my Colt book but what I can say is that it does cycle and lock-up properly....
    There is no way a 6-shot cylinder from 1860+ can cycle and lock up in firing position if it was originally an earlier 5-shot gun unless the hand has been changed for the 6-shot cylinder. Otherwise the longer 5-shot hand would "overshoot" the cylinder bolt stop slots when cocking the gun and the chamber would not lock up, and the chamber would not be aligned with the barrel bore.

    I think you have a repaired parts gun, which may have been created at the Colt factory for that matter. Sam Colt was always a fan of not neglecting spare parts that he had in stock, and repairing his guns. He was never someone to try not to save a dollar or less if he could make the repair work. I have a problem with some Colt lettered guns as I don't think all are accurate because the Colt archives don't have every bit of information from 150 years ago, especially where repairs are concerned after the Colt factory burned and Sam Colt died in 1862.

    Just my $.02 worth.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    I don't know and the book that i have (Standard Catalog of Colt Firearms, 2nd Edition) doesn't tell me much at all; It DOES cycle and lock up fine and has 3 clicks to full cock.


 
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