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    Hi All,
    I need some expert guidance on what the correct New York City address looks like on an original Colt M1851 Square back. I have seen three variations and don’t know what is correct. Further, were all Colt Navy
    M 1851s made with walnut grips?
    Lastly, were the serial numbers on these early navies stamped with individual number dies? Some guns have perfectly aligned numbers while others have numbers not perfectly aligned. Thanks much!Attachment 664567Attachment 664567
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    The barrel shown in your photos has the correct (and only) address stamped on squareback 1851s. It is distinctive because all squarebacks had the "NEW YORK CITY" address. Walnut grips as opposed to.....? Walnut was the standard grip material. Special orders were available with ivory, bone, etc. Hard rubber was never used. I believe that all the numerals in all serial numbers were stamped with individual dies.
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    Would love to see the rest of the gun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjack33 View Post
    The barrel shown in your photos has the correct (and only) address stamped on squareback 1851s. It is distinctive because all squarebacks had the "NEW YORK CITY" address. Walnut grips as opposed to.....? Walnut was the standard grip material. Special orders were available with ivory, bone, etc. Hard rubber was never used. I believe that all the numerals in all serial numbers were stamped with individual dies.
    Blackjack, Walnut grips as opposed to another type of wood. Sorry, wasn’t clear. If the serial numbers were stamped with individual die, would their alignment vary somewhat by which employee was doing the stamping?
    Do all square backs have a crowned barrel? Much obliged !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjack33 View Post
    The barrel shown in your photos has the correct (and only) address stamped on squareback 1851s. It is distinctive because all squarebacks had the "NEW YORK CITY" address. Walnut grips as opposed to.....? Walnut was the standard grip material. Special orders were available with ivory, bone, etc. Hard rubber was never used. I believe that all the numerals in all serial numbers were stamped with individual dies.
    A couple more serial examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29aholic View Post
    Would love to see the rest of the gun
    Here you go, thanks.
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    Nice, that's a decent looking Type 1 Navy. Is there a story behind it?
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    With regard to uneven serial numbers here’s another typical example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjack33 View Post
    With regard to uneven serial numbers here’s another typical example.
    Blackjack, I’m no expert, but I have seen many Colts with uneven numbers. Was just told by a recognized expert ( dealer )that the numbers should align because they were machine stamped. I thought perhaps Colt started with individual number die hand stamped on the early guns and then later used machines, but the serial number in your last post sure looks hand stamped. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29aholic View Post
    Nice, that's a decent looking Type 1 Navy. Is there a story behind it?
    Thank you. Here’s a bit more. The story is unfinished at the moment.


 
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