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    OK to shoot older Pythons as much as newer models?

    I have just started my Python collection and will be picking up a 1960's and 1979 Royal Blue later this week. One revolver is in LNIB condition and it's almost seems a shame to start wearing it in after all these years, but I buy my guns to shoot.

    That said, anything I need to be careful about with the older Pythons? Will they hold up well to 3000 rounds or so a year with proper care? All the other guns in my collection are late model pistols, so any advice greatly appreciated.

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    Re: OK to shoot older Pythons as much as newer models?

    Is this because the lighter bullets higher velocity causes greater wear and tear on the revolver?

    Also, can you tell me what "tapstrap erosion" refers to?

    Thanks, -UD-

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    Re: OK to shoot older Pythons as much as newer models?

    I think diamondback meant TOPstrap erosion & had a "typo". Hot loads can sometimes cause "gas or flame cutting"in the front of the top strap of the revolver(what the sights are mounted on),just above the barrel where it comes through the frame. Many revolvers had(have) an oval shaped indent there to try & combat this. The Ruger Blackhawk had this problem,in .357 MAXIMUM caliber some years ago,and Ruger took it off the market. You should be able to shoot this gun as much as you want with 158 gr LEAD bullets,but keep around 1000-1200 fps,to avoid erosion(and leading up the barrel!) Bud

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    Re: OK to shoot older Pythons as much as newer models?

    My indoor range does not allow lead ammo, only FMJ/TMJ. Any issue with running that through a Python vs. soft lead?

    Learning a lot here, good stuff and much appreciated.

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    Re: OK to shoot older Pythons as much as newer models?

    My Python was bought NIB in `65 and carried as a duty weapon for 20 years until I was forced to switch to a Sig. It is now 39 years old and still shoots as well as the day I bought it. I have no idea how many rounds have gone through it.

    FMJ/TMJ may cause more wear than lead,

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    Re: OK to shoot older Pythons as much as newer models?



    I will let the experts chime in here, but I would not think that many should hurt the gun provided they are 158GR. What I would not do is fire lots of 125GR stuff through it or you will see tapstrap erosion.
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    Re: OK to shoot older Pythons as much as newer models?


    Tapstrap???, either I had brain inversion or I have coined a new word in the artillery lexicon. I'll go with the first.....so much for proofreading.

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    Re: OK to shoot older Pythons as much as newer models?

    In my mind no question that jacketed bullets will (in the pretty long run)cause more wear than lead. With lead and with reasonable loads, barrel life should be more or less infinite, as with a rimfire.

    Another question, and one I asked once in this forum, is the effect on the gun of shooting lots of full-house 357 loads (as opposed to 38's). When I put one of my Pythons next to one of my postwar Officer's Models, I see no difference in frame or cylinder.

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    Re: OK to shoot older Pythons as much as newer models?



    Bill A

    As you probably know, since you've bought used guns, you can't "see" the difference, but how about checking the rotational play, the cylinder end play, the endshake, the B/C gap tolerences and the timing?
    These are the things I check out real close when buying someone else's gun to see if the gun has been riden hard and put away wet. I don't know of a way you can tell by just looking at a gun to see if it has been used a lot.

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    Re: OK to shoot older Pythons as much as newer models?

    Dick:

    I have been buying some stuff off the Internet recently and as a newbie I'm screwed for knowing how to check any of that... Much less know what any of it means. My rule of thumb is if it looks exceptionally clean and generally tight it should be "OK". Should I be taking my Pythons to a local 'smith to have them checked out?

    I have purchased firearms many times over the Internet, but almost always new. The one used gun I did buy (HK P7M8) was in OK shape, but I *know* what to look for on those.

    The trouble with buying locally is that the supply just isn't there. I have been looking in the Seattle area for months and have only come across basket cases (even to my eyes) and King Cobra's.


 
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