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    Who has a 1909 US Navy?

    I understand that Colt made 1000 1909 US Navy revolvers, cal.45 Colt. Colt also made 1400 1909 USMC revolvers. Thus, the Navy version a a bit more rare, but not hugely more rare.

    I often see commentary on the USMC version. When they go up for auction, they get very high prices. Sometimes, even a gun that has been obviously refinished gets a very high price. So why do I never see commentary on the 1909 US Navy? Why do I never see them up for auction?

    I must confess that about 8 years ago, at my local gun store, a 1909 US Navy was for sale in the range of $800 to $900, and I did not buy it. It had a crude and heavy refinish job, and back then I rejected it for that reason. Now I wish I had it.
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    I would love to find a USMC Model 1909 that was in my price range.I do have a Model 1909 U.S.Army that was in my price range ($600) and that one just happened to be at the local gun shop. Mine has been refinished and rebarrelled with a New Service barrel, but it shoots great and I do not feel bad about shooting a "Collector's Piece". Good luck on your quest.
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    I maintain a database of M1909's, and it currently contains the following revolvers:

    Branch # in Database # Made Serial number Range
    USMC 18 1400 23022 - 26864
    USN 12 1000 51328 - 53096
    USARMY 103 19503 30294 - 49494

    The numbers reported to the database are roughly proportional to the numbers made (the current best estimates), the serial number ranges reported are pretty close to the known ones, and the Army has about twice the loss rate of the others, perhaps as expected (more boots on the ground). So perhaps the database is a reasonable sample of what's really out there. There were a few oddball specimens that I won't discuss without more data, but very few.

    There is a surprising number of specimens in pretty good condition, suggesting not used much in battle. The Marine Corp has higher percentage of these than the other two services.

    More to come as I get more data.

    Buck

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    Quote Originally Posted by haggis View Post
    I maintain a database of M1909's, and it currently contains the following revolvers:

    Branch # in Database # Made Serial number Range
    USMC 18 1400 23022 - 26864
    USN 12 1000 51328 - 53096
    USARMY 103 19503 30294 - 49494

    The numbers reported to the database are roughly proportional to the numbers made (the current best estimates), the serial number ranges reported are pretty close to the known ones, and the Army has about twice the loss rate of the others, perhaps as expected (more boots on the ground). So perhaps the database is a reasonable sample of what's really out there. There were a few oddball specimens that I won't discuss without more data, but very few.

    There is a surprising number of specimens in pretty good condition, suggesting not used much in battle. The Marine Corp has higher percentage of these than the other two services.

    More to come as I get more data.

    Buck
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    No disrespect to any swabbies on the forum (my dad was one for 30 years), but I believe many things USMC related garner more interest among collectors.
    My areas of expertise are firearms and Latin females. Not necessarily in that order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmc69 View Post
    Do you want the number off my rebuilt 1909?
    Yes, I would like to have any data you might wish to share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haggis View Post
    Yes, I would like to have any data you might wish to share.

    Buck


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    No Colt on the left side plate. I don't think it was buffed out, but can see what might be a very light strike.

    Both the barrel and the cylinder release have been replaced.
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    I have one 1909 USMC and two 1909 Navy. One of each including the Army model will be on display at this years CCA Show in Concord, N.C. My data shows that Colt built 1000 of the Navy and 1300 of the USMC. I will try and take a few pictures to post as soon as my schedule allows.
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    usmc69, that's still a good-looking gun, regardless of the replaced parts. Shoot it, and enjoy it.

    Buck

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    Quote Originally Posted by haggis View Post
    usmc69, that's still a good-looking gun, regardless of the replaced parts. Shoot it, and enjoy it.

    Buck
    Buck,

    Thanks and I do. Just wish it could tell us it's history.

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