A compilation of original boxes, labels, paperwork and accessories would be of great benefit to collectors and regrettably an easily accessible, master class tutorial for current and future fakers.
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I concur: do not make a database on boxes. Paper is too easy to counterfeit, relative to steel and finishes, and wood. So you have to keep details of how to tell somewhat classified.
The relationship between collectible values and information about the item is counter intuitive. It goes something like this:
1. Items are relatively unknown. Information about them (internet forums) starts interest. Values slowly increase.
2. Some inpatient or wealthy collectors buy fast, high, and often. Prices start to increase quickly.
3. Fraud vendors see opportunity to cash in if they make counterfeits. They pick the easy to fake items first. Grips, screws, boxes. Things that the average skilled person can produce. Prices continue to increase as new collectors mistakenly buy fakes, reproductions. They assume they might "get lucky" and also make money, or that even a fake will add some value to their real item to other mistaken collectors.
4. Expert collectors know how to tell fakes, newbies get burned. Prices start to destabilize.
5. New collectors demand a "guide" to determine fakes. An expert vigilantly creates one outlining every "tell" and slightly wrong item on the current fakes. 2nd generation fakes are much better, much harder to detect. Prices start to fall.
6. Prices fall to "pre boom" stage, because all collectors realize they cannot tell a real box from a fake one, artificially aged. Everyone realizes it's not really "rare" when there are hundreds of boxes, some real, some fake, on the market. Boxes go back to being worth about $25.
End - this has happened in all fields of collectibles. Counterfeiters read the internet and books too.
Last edited by azshot; 06-04-2019 at 05:52 AM.
I understand the concern but think the horses have already left the barn with regards to boxes .
Gunbroker has all the box history you would need and the counterfeiters have been in mass production for years .
Please support Crimson Trace Grips , Mossberg and Beretta . They support our troops .
Yes everything can or try to be counterfeited. But if you have a original example to compare to, then isn't it up to the buyer to decide from that point?
I also understand to some its "trade secrets" and does't wan to pass on or revel and at the end of the day . . . . its all about money and profit.