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    Help on a Pocket Positive

    Buying a .32 Pocket Positive from another forum member and know very little on these guns. What is the Frame size [the letter designation] and were the grips the same size all through it's production? Thanks guys!
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    Prior to WWII Colt didn't use letter codes for most of their revolvers.
    It was only after WWII that Colt began using the letter codes such as "D" frame for their small frame models.

    In the pre-war era frames were usually known by the name of the first model to use that frame. As example, the Detective Special frame was called the Police Positive Special frame, because that was the first model to have that frame.

    Following that, the Pocket Positive would probably have been known as the New Pocket frame, since the first model in that size was the New pocket model of 1895.
    In the following few years Colt upgraded it to the New Police model, then to the Pocket Positive, then to the Police Positive.

    There was a Second Issue Pocket Positive, but I don't think the grip frame changed.

    There's more information on the Pocket Positive history on the Colt Fever site....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfariswheel View Post
    In the following few years Colt upgraded it to the New Police model, then to the Pocket Positive, then to the Police Positive.

    The Police Positive is a much bigger ".38 caliber" frame. It is basically the Police Positive Special frame size mentioned, but with a shorter cylinder window. (The Police Positive Special grew out of the Police Positive so that the longer .38 Special could be chambered in the longer cylinder of the Police Positive Special, hence the "Special" part of the name.)

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    The Pocket Positive is the smallest DA Colt frame. It’s frame size is the same as the early .32 cal. Police Positive except it has a smaller rounded butt. The butt size never changed. It came in various barrel lengths, including a 6 inch version. The Pocket Positive was popular with female cops, small and totally reliable. I have a late one, made just before the war, with a knurled trigger and the slickest action I have ever encountered. It rivals the most expensive target revolver, very odd in a pocket pistol.

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    The Pocket Positive is made on the "A" Frame. Its production began in 1905 at serial number 30,000 which followed the New Pockets production that began with serial number 1 in 1893. The Pocket Positive was offered in four different barrel lengths, 2" (Rare), 2 1/2", 3 1/2" & 6" (Rare). They were offered in both blue and nickel finish. While the hard rubber stocks were standard, others such as checkered wood, fancy checkered wood, pearl and ivory could be ordered. Chamberings for the Pocket Positive were limited to .32 New Police (.32 S&W) & .32 Colt. The grips are all the same size throughout the entire production range.

    Shown below are the four barrel lengths and a few of the stock offerings.



    Nickel finish
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    Thank you all for the information. A question from a S&W shooter, new to Colt DA revolvers. It appears that triggers were blued whioe the hammers appear to be case hardened or in the white. Which was it?
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    The triggers are blue as are the top and back of the hammer. The sides of the hammer are in the white.
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