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    Are You Thinking SAA Clone?

    I took a brand new Uberti Patron to the range today. I am disappointed to say the least.First of all it's not a Colt! It has a funky hammer safety which is part of the cylinder pin. Pin all the way in safe, out one notch out is fire. The problem is after several reloads the pin starts backing out and I'll reset it, it's nice and tight, then it starts doing it all over. Maybe since I just picked it up, it was lubed too much at the factory. The cylinder and barrel were cleaned. It shoots low left at 15yds. I do have 3rd Gen SAA so I do have something to compare it to. BTW new gun 45LC. Should have waited for a Colt, you get what you pay for.

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    Ditch the pin and replace it with a Belt Mountain?

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    I wouldn't sell all the "clones" short. This from my Stoeger/Uberti Flat Top .45 Colt:



    And from my Cimarron Model P/Uberti .44 Special:



    The Cimarron is especially nicely finished with a very good action out of the box. Its not a Ruger nor even a Colt, but the target doesn't know any better.

    Bob Wright

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    Funny. I've owned an Armi San Marcos SAA in .44-40 for about fifteen years. Had two. Sold one. Played with different loads and couldn't get the gun to shoot much better than minute of torso at 7 yards, shoots very low left too. Decided to keep it around for an example of what a SAA shouldn't be. At the time, I had a conversation with Bob Munden who suggested this might be a good place to start, I didn't think I could afford a Colt and I recall he said he had built up several very good guns using ASM frames and the price was right, think I got the two for around $500. I might send it off to someone someday to get "tweaked" a bit, but I hate to sell someone a gun that just doesn't shoot straight. The overall fit and finish is remarkable (except the case ejector housing retaining screw is cross-threaded into the stud on the barrel), it's just a very pretty, but not functional model. Turned me off to SAA guns for a while. The one I sold new in box is someone else's problem. For all I know it's the winner of the two and someone got a really good deal.

    Fast forward and I've bought a handful of Colt SAAs over the past two years, the last one I had some work done on recently. So I took my "new" Colt 3d gen gun to the range today and with a load I had last used in the ASM gun I was easily whacking 6" plates at 10 yards (our club steel range has that as a minimum since someone shot some steel up close - like three feet - a few years ago and had to go to a local ER to have some lead taken out of his leg). This is a .44-40 load with a 200 grain RNFP slug over 5.5 grains of unique powder, starline cases, CCI LP primers. I wasn't expecting anywhere near the performance I got. Compared to the ASM this is a totally different gun and with a Bob James action job it's the best of the bunch.

    Now I'm on a waiting list to have a 1957 2d gen worked over by Eddie Janis - original grips, action job, forcing cone, close up cylinder gap - a .45 Colt, it's an amazing shooter too.

    I might get addicted to these guns.
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    I like to buy and collect, but I'm not much more than a novice in regards to target shooting with 45LC single actions.. but you'll have to try different loads to see which load gives a correct point of aim for you at 15 yds. or maybe its set for 20 yds. I don't know what Uberti El Patron might be set for, but there's bound to be some shooter's of El Patron who know. I confess readily that I enjoy shooting an Old West (antiqued finish with walnut stained grips) Uberti . The Uberti's are at least readily available. The Colts are the gems, and like gems, it takes some work to find them, especially at a reasonable price sometimes, let alone a bargain.
    If Uberti would produce a line of single actions with some real case hardening (sure the price would go up though) I think they would sell.

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    I took someone's advice on this forum and cut about 1/8" off the back of the cylinder pin and rounded off the cut end under the hammer. This eliminated that safety feature of the pin but worked much better and improved its looks by letting the pin move to its correct location. I also modified the pin removal screw to look like an original first gen screw.
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    If Uberti would produce a line of single actions with some real case hardening (sure the price would go up though) I think they would sell.
    Not too sure, but I think Doug Turnbull is doing the Cimarron Model P. Side by side with my New Frontier, hard to see any difference.


    Incidentally, I think many shooters are using 200 gr. cast bullets in their .45 Colt guns. Most guns are regulated for the factory loads using 250~255 gr. bullets, at aroun 870 fps.

    Bob Wright

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    my brand new 'New Cattleman' 5.5/.45 will be ready this Friday! have some different sized ammo..a 8" gong and some big paper targets..hoping I can hit the gong at 25yds.

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    what's your favorite powder for .45LC in SAA

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    Unique...by a wide, wide margin.
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