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    If I interpret Brunner correctly, the correct magazine for a 1912 production pistol is full blue, pinned and unmarked (or rarely Calibre 32). But ..... He also indicates a wide range in shipment dates. So it is possible that other magazine variants could have been shipped with the pistol. A factory letter with shipment date would narrow things down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curdelpuss View Post
    snip/ So it is possible that other magazine variants could have been shipped with the pistol. A factory letter with shipment date would narrow things down.
    This is where the best research can fail to deliver reliable information.
    The Company did supply all blue, pinned, unmarked mags with with pistols during that time. It also supplied two-tone, pinned and unmarked ones through 1913 & 1914. These magazines started out as all blue, pinned & unmarked, but were subjected to the improved hardening process that resulted in the two-tone appearance The next new batch of magazines were crimped base, and have the typical appearance of two-tone, round top, marked variety.
    Colt was always mindful of the bottom line, and would never allow perfectly good parts to go unused. They simply would 'build out' the excess old stock and continue forward. This would explain the seemingly random distribution of features, updates, and modifications among many product lines, and complicates the authentication process for a lot of guns. To further scramble the timeline of production runs and shipping history, there were many guns shipped out of numerical sequence, depending on how and when the product was drawn from stock. Combine these circumstances with random modifications & updates and you will encounter conditions that are not logical.
    So...either type of magazine is correct for that pistol.
    I like the two-tone, pinned & unmarked theory. I know such magazines exist.
    If this isn't confusing enough, check out the deal with the thumb safety on the model M.
    That is another case where pistols appear to have features that they either shouldn't, or have been modified post-factory, or came through production out of sequence.
    Part of the appeal of Colts is the head-scratching that one must do to figure things out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ei8ht View Post
    Which Factory? LOL



    Attachment 636295

    Oh, the ei8ht factory... post U.S. Armament...
    note the added deluxe grips with forward facing deep dish Medallions....


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    Heh, heh, heh....
    I reckon it doesn't really matter what factory when you hotrod a setup with the best trick features available......
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    Same stocks....Novak Factory...
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    Here is a custom Novak 380
    It's Not What You Gather, But What You Scatter That Tells What Kind Of Life You Have Lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ei8ht View Post
    Attachment 636803
    Still waiting for the U.S. Armament 380...
    Looks like this one only in 380....LOL

    As they say..."Hurry up and wait".

    I can relate with that.

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    Jim...

    Curious if that is the only US Armament Pocket Hammerless with your forum named engraved on it...!?

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    Yea...But with MY name on it.




    ( Nice Cutaway )...

    Yours...!?

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    Always been fascinated by them...never wanted one though.

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    1915 .380 Model M

    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    I had it as a 1915 production, but it is not. It is, in fact a 1913, and the pinned unmarked two-tone is correct . It is actually the scarcest magazine for a model M. Or, more correctly, it covers the narrowest range of production years for that particular magazine.... <snip>
    I think the two-tone, pinned base "CALIBRE 380" might be a relatively scarce one too, small range around 1914/15... and fewer 380's than 32's
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    Anyway, this 'un is 17xxx so in the right time frame of 1914-1915 for both this mag and the scarce-ish small horse grips.
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    <snip> ... but then again, I learn something new every day.
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