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    Gold Cup Double Recoil Spring

    I finally took my Talon Series 70 Gold Cup Trophy in .45 ACP out of the box (bought it new) and took it to the range. It did not come with two different recoil springs, but when I took it apart to do the initial cleaning, I was surprised to see that there was smaller and shorter spring within the normal size one. Has anyone seen this configuration? Its new to me? Also not color coded as is typical, so I do not know the weight of the spring. It shot 185 Federal Coated SWCs OK, though it did not eject them 100 % of the time. I have a few thousand 200 grain coated SWC projectiles that I plan on loading, which might work a little better with this spring set up, but I would rather set it up optimally. What spring eights does everyone recommend for target rounds of these projectile weights?

    Thanks, Bob
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    The dual recoil spring setup has been shipped with many, if not most, Government models for a while now. Colt patented the design and it supposedly helps with controllability. I believe it first was used on Delta Elites which is still set up a bit differently with a polymer recoil guide.
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    You can read about Colt's dual recoil springs set up here.

    https://gundigest.com/article/inside...-recoil-system
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    Thanks Guys, So, are there different weight dual spring set ups for different loads?

    Bob
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnidelyWhiplash View Post
    The dual recoil spring setup has been shipped with many, if not most, Government models for a while now. Colt patented the design and it supposedly helps with controllability. I believe it first was used on Delta Elites which is still set up a bit differently with a polymer recoil guide.
    Larry Seecamp actually patented the dual springs that he used in his small DAO guns. The patent has long since run out.

    Larry said that through some of the lean years he and his Father had he lived mostly on the royalties.

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    The first Colt I saw with the double spring inside a spring recoil spring was a Officers ACP. Here in a 1985 Officers ACP.



    Then there were the Deltas where the inner recoil spring was shorter. Here in a 1990 delta Gold Cup.



    I did buy a Gold Cup Trophy Lite in 38 Super in the fall of 2018 and it had the double springs with a redddish-orange on the end of them.



    Now the GCNM in 9mm I bought in the fall of 2017 had a single recoil spring with green on the end.

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    I am familiar with Colt's red and green spring markings, but this was new to me. I will get a couple of Wolff springs try.

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    I’ve found that a 16# spring will drop the brass from my target loads on my forearms
    Right convenient

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    Looks like the 9mm and 38 Super use the same red dual springs. I have a 9 and 38 S comp and just checked. My 45 comp has no paint on it.


 

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