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    This first model sport was purchased from Swamprat's Sons, I think it may have pictured before on this thread, I am proud to have acquired it.



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    A real beauty! The gold work is very nice, and you don't see carved pearl every day.
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    Stan3 and AlanD,

    This is information that you already may know: The marking "JJ" is reported to be James Joseph Goodboy who ran the Colt's London Agency 1911-1913. When the London Agency closed in 1913, the London Armory became the exclusive distributor in England and continued to use the "JJ" until about 1930, per Richard Milner.

    Per Doug Sheldon in A Collectors Guide To Colt's 38 Automatic Pistols pg 118: In the early part of WW1 14% (2500) 1902 Military 38acps w/ the SN range 36K-38K shipped in 1914-1915 for the war effort. Very few have the "JJ" acceptance marks, all have British proofs. Goddard's book pg 190 has shipments to the London Armory, possibly Canadian Expeditionary Forces???

    I know I'm mixing models, but this marking interests me since I collect these 38 autos and Woodsmen. This 1902 Military SN 38131 has the JJ.

    1902 38131 Brit Frame JJ.JPG1902 38131 Brit Barrel.JPG
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    It would seem the JJ marking was a bit hit and miss and I doubt we will ever find out the reason. In 1915 the LAC would have sold every pistol and revolver in .32, .38 and .45 before it hit the shelves, perhaps they just did not bother as they were to busy?

    Out of interest I have examined a Winchester self loader in the U.K. that had the JJ marking on the frame near the trigger guard, I think it was in .351 but could have been .401, it was a few years ago.

    tedm, have you ever seen a 1902 .38 or 1905 with British ordnance markings, I do not mean British commercial proofs, so a broad arrow and/or an Enfield inspection mark. Personally I have not but I have heard that an example/s had been reported by a knowledgeable person who is now deceased. I would like to see a photo of one as confirmation, until then it is speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanD View Post
    It would seem the JJ marking was a bit hit and miss and I doubt we will ever find out the reason. In 1915 the LAC would have sold every pistol and revolver in .32, .38 and .45 before it hit the shelves, perhaps they just did not bother as they were to busy?

    Out of interest I have examined a Winchester self loader in the U.K. that had the JJ marking on the frame near the trigger guard, I think it was in .351 but could have been .401, it was a few years ago.

    tedm, have you ever seen a 1902 .38 or 1905 with British ordnance markings, I do not mean British commercial proofs, so a broad arrow and/or an Enfield inspection mark. Personally I have not but I have heard that an example/s had been reported by a knowledgeable person who is now deceased. I would like to see a photo of one as confirmation, until then it is speculation.

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    Now this is interesting! I have a 1907 and an 1895 (in 35wcf) with this proof mark. I aquired them along with some other guns that purportedly came from a US diplomat in India. I've often wondered what the JJ was.

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    Picked this one up this weekend at the Cabela's Gun Library (their used gun section).

    It's a 1916 Colt .22 Automatic Target Pistol (Pre-Woodsman)



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    1948 Target Model shipped to Shapleigh Hardware per Colt letter. Have original box, papers, Coltwood grips, both grip adaptors, etc. I put a nice set of walnut grips on it for show.



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    I pulled a few sport models 3rd series out of the safe today. This was MFG in 1967.

    It has two magazines and is 98-99 %

    Bottom of box is black and matches the guns serial number

    Not sure of the grips but I have seen Match Targets of this era with the wooden grips.

    That's all for now.

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    I did say a couple so here is the 2nd, a sport third series mfg in 1956. It has black plastic grips a box, not numbered to the pistol, could be from Sparta, factory test target.



    a look at the whole pistol.

    and the test target !

    and the box ?

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