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    Colt Commander M1991A1 Slide Damage

    Hello All:

    Iím new to the forum and just wanted to ask a question and get some feedback on what to do regarding damage a gunsmith did to my Commander slide.

    I have a Colt Commander Model .45 1991 Series Stainless Steel M1991A1, O4091U. I had a dove tail machined into the front post to allow me to change out the front site. The tool machining the slot slipped and had chadder down the top and side of the slide.

    The gunsmith then took what looks like a dremel to smooth out the chadder creating a big dip in the slide. I didnít notice it till I got home and he didn't say anything.

    I brought the gun back and said this needs replaced. He is not happy and is looking for a slide but can you get a slide for this gun still? If not what do you guys recommend?

    I've asked the guys over at M1911.ORG and they pointed me in this direction. Sorry if this is not the correct area to post this.

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    You should be able to find a slide...it's up to him to find the correct slide. His screw-up...his repair on his dime. He should make you (your gun) whole again...regardless of how unhappy it makes him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrank001 View Post
    Hello All:

    Iím new to the forum and just wanted to ask a question and get some feedback on what to do regarding damage a gunsmith did to my Commander slide.

    I have a Colt Commander Model .45 1991 Series Stainless Steel M1991A1, O4091U. I had a dove tail machined into the front post to allow me to change out the front site. The tool machining the slot slipped and had chadder down the top and side of the slide.

    The gunsmith then took what looks like a dremel to smooth out the chadder creating a big dip in the slide. I didnít notice it till I got home and he didn't say anything.

    I brought the gun back and said this needs replaced. He is not happy and is looking for a slide but can you get a slide for this gun still? If not what do you guys recommend?

    I've asked the guys over at M1911.ORG and they pointed me in this direction. Sorry if this is not the correct area to post this.

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    He returned it to you and didn't tell you that he damaged it? You met with Bubba! It is up to him to replace the slide - or take it to a reputable GS and have the replacement slide fitted to your gun then send him the bill. What a shame to do something like that to a Colt...

    So sorry you have to go thru all of this.
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    Amarin: Yes I agree. I was referred to him by a local gun shop. I haven't spoke them yet to tell them what happened. Hey accidents happen but when nothing was said that's the part that bites me. He has the gun now and is looking for a slide as well as I. I just want to make sure it is a OEM slide made in the USA or a high end aftermarket USA made slide.
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    A machine screw up like that is possible but hard to explain other then as an incompetent job of setting everything up.
    A machine tool should not be able to do that unless the set up was just plain botched and everything was not properly locked down.

    Using a Dremel to try to "fix" the damage is just plain inexcusable and is the mark of an incompetent hack.

    As above, it's his screw up and his responsibility to make it right with a new Colt slide.
    There are after market slides readily available from some top manufacturers, but you should get a genuine COLT slide of the exact same model.

    Personally, I'd demand he get you a new, not used, replacement Colt slide and NOT do anything to it.
    I'd then take or send the new slide to a more competent pistolsmith.

    The fact is even real pros can make a mistake, but gun butchering the slide further is inexcusable from a professional.
    It's this sort of thing that separates professionals from hacks.
    A professional will immediately understand the slide was ruined and would have immediately looked for a new slide.
    A hack sees a damaged part and his first instinct is to try to do a patch job, only to make it even worse.

    The final damning point is a hack doesn't tell you about the problem then and there and explain how he'd make it right.
    Screwing up is human and it happens to the best. Trying to pass it off like this is the mark of total unprofessionalism.
    Get a new Colt slide and go elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfariswheel View Post
    A machine screw up like that is possible but hard to explain other then as an incompetent job of setting everything up.
    A machine tool should not be able to do that unless the set up was just plain botched and everything was not properly locked down.

    Using a Dremel to try to "fix" the damage is just plain inexcusable and is the mark of an incompetent hack.

    As above, it's his screw up and his responsibility to make it right with a new Colt slide.
    There are after market slides readily available from some top manufacturers, but you should get a genuine COLT slide of the exact same model.

    Personally, I'd demand he get you a new, not used, replacement Colt slide and NOT do anything to it.
    I'd then take or send the new slide to a more competent pistolsmith.

    The fact is even real pros can make a mistake, but gun butchering the slide further is inexcusable from a professional.
    It's this sort of thing that separates professionals from hacks.
    A professional will immediately understand the slide was ruined and would have immediately looked for a new slide.
    A hack sees a damaged part and his first instinct is to try to do a patch job, only to make it even worse.

    The final damning point is a hack doesn't tell you about the problem then and there and explain how he'd make it right.
    Screwing up is human and it happens to the best. Trying to pass it off like this is the mark of total unprofessionalism.
    Get a new Colt slide and go elsewhere.
    I agree 100%. That's what I'm going to tell him when I call tomorrow. I just hope Colt has a slide
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    That! was not a gunsmith. Some butchers could do a better job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurusu View Post
    That! was not a gunsmith. Some butchers could do a better job.
    This is one reason I work on mine, now sometimes you need the machine shop.

    Colt probably has a slide whether it has the old roll marks as in M1991A1 or the newer roll marks. I guess that doesn't matter.
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    It’s already been said so I’ll just say WOW!
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