When I ordered my black standard rig from him in 1985 I somehow got his daughter in law's number who then gave me his. He was in Roseda, CA. (I mailed him a VHS tape there) but here's what I think I remember. Something about his son was in the military and his daughter in law ran the shop in Tacoma, WA. I forgot if I sent the $200 to her or Arvo in CA. I might have gotten the original phone number from the guy who ran a fast draw club in Morgan Hill, CA., Gene Cozzitorto. I got his name from the index of Arganbright's fast draw book and went down there and shot with him and his group. I only lived a little over an hour away.