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    Some Of Us Like Old Bowie Knives And Camp Knives

    This is an early spear point Bowie by J. Rodgers & Sons at No. 6 Norfolk St. in Sheffield, England. The blade measures 9", and is fitted with a German silver guard and escutcheon. The overall length is 13-3/4". The upper edge of the blade measures 5/16" thick at the guard.

    John Rodgers began making cutlery in 1821 on his own account, and afterwards in partnership with his sons.

    A British Court Case on trademark violation (Feb 1853) stated that Wm Rodgers and his father John Rodgers and brother George Rodgers (and part of time with his late brother Samuel Rodgers) had since May 1848 operated a business in Sheffield. Their work was stamped "J. Rodgers & Sons" with a Crown and Royal initials, and sometimes with the added words "Celebrated Cutlery".
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    Neat old knife. Thanks for sharing with us.

    Tom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosby View Post
    Neat old knife. Thanks for sharing with us.

    Tom
    Tom, I was amazed at how much info can be found on old knives that helps to date them. What I provided here from that 1853 court case was just a very short summary, leaving out many details and street addresses.
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    This is a typical camp knife as worn on gunbelts 1870’s-1910’s. Blade Length: 5.93”, Blade Width: 1”, Overall Length: 10”.

    Stamped on blade side: (Circle B) (Indian Arrow) (Maltese Cross) / "Bowie". Stamped on ricasso: Wade & Butcher / Sheffield / England.

    W. & S. Butcher's cutlery business was established in 1725, according to their advertisements. However, William was born in 1791 and Samuel in 1797. Export to North America seems to have expanded greatly in the 1830s, when their New York agent was Robert Wade.
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    An old B&W photo that has blade printed darker than the actual knife. Found in South Louisiana. Was pictured and written up in The American Blade 1977.

    Another spear point Bowie. Blade Length: 9.5". Overall Length: 14-1/2". Blade Width: 1.3". Upper Blade Thickness: 0.32".

    Coffin shaped German silver grip frame. Ivory scales.

    Stamped on blade side in oval: "Cast Steel / Bowie Knife". Etched on blade side: "A Rifle's Brother". Stamped on ricasso: "James Rodgers & Co. / Celebrated / Make. Sheffield".

    Believed made in the 1840's. Of course, the significance of "A Rifle's Brother" was that a knife was required to cut the patch prior to ramming down the ball.
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    Nice I have an old blade like that. I have to dig it out , have not had my hands on it for sometime. Thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victorio1sw View Post
    This is a typical camp knife as worn on gunbelts 1870’s-1910’s. Blade Length: 5.93”, Blade Width: 1”, Overall Length: 10”.

    Stamped on blade side: (Circle B) (Indian Arrow) (Maltese Cross) / "Bowie". Stamped on ricasso: Wade & Butcher / Sheffield / England.

    W. & S. Butcher's cutlery business was established in 1725, according to their advertisements. However, William was born in 1791 and Samuel in 1797. Export to North America seems to have expanded greatly in the 1830s, when their New York agent was Robert Wade.
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    Four of the six men are showing their Camp Knives. An 1888 cabinet photo made at Rio Grande City, Starr County, Texas.

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    Also two more in the back row, thanks for the pic.
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    Not so old, but still Bowie pattern. All are made of damascus steel and marked "Colt".


    Some "useful" size Bowies!
    Bowie 5.jpg


    The blade on the large "D" guard Bowie is about 13" long!
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    My Hen & Rooster Bowie...





    SPECS:

    Blade Material ~ Solingen Stainless Steel
    Blade Length ~ 9.5"
    Overall Length ~ 14"
    Type ~ Clip Point
    Grip Material ~ Deer Stag
    Country of Origin ~ Germany
    City of Origin ~ Solingen


    The maker of the original Hen and Rooster knives, Bertram, was founded in 1845 and was quickly recognized as one of the finest knives crafted in Solingen, Germany.







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