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    I like it. It's kind of like a precursor to the Centennial Model that came out in 1952. It's interesting in that in 1930 someone could buy a Colt Detective Special in a more powerful caliber if they wanted a short barreled concealable gun but I don't think the hammer shrouds were available yet. And I'm sure many people didn't like the idea of carrying a Colt, Savage or Remington pocket auto with a round chambered and the safety on. A short safety hammerless gun like that must have fit the bill for whoever ordered it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcat94 View Post
    can we get a picture of it hinged open for loading ?


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    The lower priced competitor. An Iver Johnson Safety Hammerless, Second Model from 1901. They may have had the moniker of "Bicycle Model," but doubtless there is some appeal even to pedestrians for a pocket-able 5 shot .38 extending to the present day
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    My Iver Johnson Firearms Company subsidiary US Revolver Company " Safety Automatic " Top Break in .32 S&W.

    My specimen has a serial number of 92091...manufactured circa 1916.

    US Revolver Company used an all numeric serial number system until they reached 100,000 in 1916. In 1917 they added an alphabetic prefix and restarted the serial numbers at 00001.


    SPECS:

    Barrel Length ~ 3 inches
    Overall Length ~ 6.5 inches
    Height ~ 4 inches
    Weight ~ 3 ounces ( unloaded )











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    The .32 S&W cartridge was introduced in 1878 for Smith & Wesson pocket revolvers. Originally designed by the Union Metallic Cartridge Co. (UMC) as a black powder cartridge using nine grains of black powder, the round has been loaded with smokeless powder exclusively since 1940. It is low-powered and perfect for use in small frame concealable revolvers and derringers. The round remained popular in the United States and Europe long after the firearms chambered for it were out of production.





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    Quote Originally Posted by SHOOTER13 View Post

    Patented in 1896 under #566,393, this ‘Hammer the Hammer’ action was positively revolutionary for handguns. Up until then you risked an accidental discharge from a dropped revolver if the gun was carried with a hammer down on a loaded cylinder. By contrast, Colt did not introduce an internal hammer block safety until 1907. Colt named the “Positive Lock” it became a partial namesake for the new Police Positive revolver.

    It is not true that S&W did not have a hammer block safety before WWII. They had one, starting in 1915 but unlike the Colt, it depended on a spring to function. Turned out that was just not good enough. After the death of a sailor from an accidental discharge of a Victory pistol dropped on the deck of a ship, S&W's "non-positive" hammer block safety was replaced by the current type which is about foolproof.

    Ever an innovative company, Iver Johnson also had a solid frame swing out .38 caliber revolver in 1879, some ten years BEFORE Colt. (Can you tell I like those Owl Head revolvers?)

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    My grandfather's Iver Johnson...
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    While we are on the subject of Iver Johnson (Hope Rick doesn't mind we hi-jacked his post)




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    Quote Originally Posted by old tanker View Post
    (Can you tell I like those Owl Head revolvers?)
    Never doubted it old tanker...!!



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    Jeez Us...We ALL came outta the closet !!



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    Well now you guys have done it. I will be adding a top break hammerless revolver to my side sweeping gun show radar detection system.


 
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