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    Let’s just all admit that Wild Bill knew what was best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosby View Post
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    Let’s just all admit that Wild Bill knew what was best.

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    We will have to consider that at the height is "gunfighting" days there was no SAA yet.

    But he was shot in the back with one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemmy View Post
    I submit for you all that the best 19th Century handgun, indeed firearm, was/is the Colt Single Action Army Model of 1873. I submit this by virtue that it is still being produced today by Colt and other manufacturers as well as modernized versions. Also the .45 Colt cartridge is still a viable self defense cartridge still being produced today in its original chambering plus a variety of Hollow Point designs. Please tell me if I am wrong.

    I'd agree...

    And for the 20th Century, I'd say the Colt m1911 / Government Model.

    So...Colt seems to be the winner for both Centuries of course!
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    If you want to break it down, cartridge guns only...

    Revolver-Colt New Service, 1898.

    Self loader-Luger, 1900, (1900 is still officially the 19th century, but for any nit-pickers-C96 Mauser then).

    Rifles-1898 Mauser by a landslide.

    Shotguns-Winchester 1897.
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    I shall offer no argument to the OP.
    I reckon any response is a matter of opinion, conjecture, & preference, based on individual interpretation of the question.
    Note the wide variance in the responses.
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    Love the New Model #3 Target, what caliber is it?

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    Parsons noted (and I'm paraphrasing) that the Army loved the SAA......... for five shots, then you could throw it away.

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    The breechloader.
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    I really like this discourse of which certainly there will not be universal agreement, at least with this bunch here...

    I would have to argue that the Colt Paterson would have to be the Best 19th Century American Firearm from the perspective of we Colt collectors. Granted, the Model 1873 Colt Single Action had the longevity, usefulness, practicality and time of manufacture and could therefore be considered a better revolver, but let us not forget that the Colt Paterson, patented in America by Samuel Colt in 1836, was THE precursor to the revolver, Colt Single Action or other revolvers, as we know them today. Certainly the Single Action was a perfection of the Colt Paterson revolver patent, but if it were not for the Colt Paterson patent, then the Single Action would not have existed, at least in its current form. Sure, somebody would have gotten around to it eventually, but Samuel Colt was the first - in America.

    But let's not forget the inspiration of the revolver to Samuel Colt, the Elisha H. Collier Flintlock Revolver, patented by Bostonian Elisha H. Collier who moved to England in 1818 to patent his design there and in France. Samuel Colt had Collier testify at the famous Colt vs. Massachusetts Arms Company patent infringement trial of 1851 and still has two of these few flintlock revolvers in the Colt Collection in Hartford today. Although Samuel Colt would not give the Collier revolver the credit of being his inspiration, the facts seem to suggest otherwise. Technically not American, this revolver represented the beginning of the development of the revolver as we now know it.

    Here's a Collier and a couple of Patersons...





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