any old S&W gurus here? what is it?
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    There are several who cater to the 'Cowboy Action Shooting' guys - many larger shops carry the ammunition - you'll need the shorter .38 S&W round, not .38 Special.

    Remember - the metallurgy's pretty much wrought iron, not steel - and by this time, it's tired...
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    Jimmac,
    It is not a Baby Russian.
    Slightly different model made 1876/1877

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    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...=1572028040261
    would this be safe to shoot occasionally? years ago my dad had a old ive Johnson top break in .38sw, we never knew about BP ammo, just used to go to k mart and buy a box of 38sw to shoot. jim

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    This topic is discussed frequently on a different forum.
    The overwhelming consensus is that if the gun is is in shooting condition, modern factory loads are ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmac View Post
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...=1572028040261
    would this be safe to shoot occasionally? years ago my dad had a old ive Johnson top break in .38sw, we never knew about BP ammo, just used to go to k mart and buy a box of 38sw to shoot. jim
    Old Iver Johnson may have dated to 1958, how old is "old"?

    An 1870s, 1880s S & W, I think I would stay with BP Rounds if it was me.

    Anyway, "Buffalo Arms" normally has .38 S & W Black Powder Rounds in stock...but looks like they are out of Stock at the moment.

    https://www.buffaloarms.com/38-s-w-b...f-50-amobp38sw

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    no idea the age of the Iver Johnson, when we moved to the states from Okinawa, my dads buddy loaned it to him and we used to go to a friends property to ride horses and shoot, this was late 70s.
    on the black powder ammo.....a buck a round? might as well check out some YouTube videos and learn to load my own. I bought a complete progressive set up and a single stage press, at a yard sale a few months ago for amazingly cheap. might as well try and learn to use it. jim

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    googled sa 38 top break sw 2nd model. the internet doesnt have all that much to say about it. jim

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    You could post over at the S&W forum to get more opinions on shooting it with modern ammo. I have read many times that all modern loaded .32 S&W, .38 S&W, 45-70 (most of it anyway) are loaded to be safe in antique firearms as there are so many of them still in shooting condition. I have shot some of my antique revolvers with modern ammo but mostly just to say I've shot it as the sights are quite fine and not easy to see. When I go shooting, I like to hit my target and more modern firearms are always a better choice. That said, I do shoot my Peabody rifle in 45-70 now and then with low powered reloads.


 
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