I'm from the distant past when I was issued a M1911 that rattled when you shook it. I found a M16 that I trotted and bought a Browning HP 9mm from an ARVN officer. My son carried M9 in Iraq & Afghanistan which he didn't like at all - he also found a M4 that he preferred. I hope the M17 gets better acceptance. My civilian carry piece is a SIG SP2022 that I like but occasionally I carry a Ruger SP101 .357.