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    Buyer Beware

    Folks,

    I want to bring this to your attention. I sold this blue Python two weeks ago here in PA. I bought it from the original PA owner a few years ago and it had NO box or papers. Funny how it suddenly now has a box and papers.

    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/834602167

    Also, I sold this nickel one to the same buyer. I obtained it too from the original PA owner, with original box and papers, but no hang tag. Now it has a hang tag.

    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/835677406

    Buyer beware.

    Al
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    The person who has them for sale must be a great detective to have found those original items!
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    Quote Originally Posted by saintclair View Post
    The person who has them for sale must be a great detective to have found those original items!

    Yes...it is very impressive indeed!
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    People are paying over $4000.00 for a Colt Python? Damn I wish I kept the one's I had years ago. Too bad I lost my crystal ball years ago.
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    It's a good case study in "flipping capitalism", where gunbroker auctions sell for the absolute highest prices an item can attain. Think about it, the guy bought the gun for perhaps 1/4 what the current asking price is. He sold it to someone for perhaps 1/2 to 3/4 of the current asking price. But there is still meat on the bone - the new flipper will probably make a grand still. It's why I seldom, if ever buy on national auction sites, if it's an in demand item. It's like going to a car lot and paying above the MSRP. Some people fall for that, but not smart shoppers.
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    Is the box and paperwork fake? Are the additional items correct (as to time period) for when the gun was made? I'm not sure what to beware of. The box should have the ID of the gun, inc serial number, so if I was interested I'd ask for a picture of the box end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beemermark View Post
    Is the box and paperwork fake? Are the additional items correct (as to time period) for when the gun was made? I'm not sure what to beware of. The box should have the ID of the gun, inc serial number, so if I was interested I'd ask for a picture of the box end.
    You can buy end labels with anything you want on them.
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    Exactly. How much is a box worth? $800? 1,000? What if it's original, but not the one that came with the gun? What if it's fake?

    This is why I never pay more for a gun just because it has a box. I buy the gun, based on IT'S condition. A box is a smoke screen that tries to imply some collector bought the gun, left it in the box in a safe, dry closet. But you can tell how the gun was used by looking at the GUN. The box is meaningless. I have a couple mint boxes of guns I bought new in the 1980s, but shot the gun itself thousands of times. Does a box subtract all that use? No.

    You hear appraisals all the time that go something like this, "Oh, nice Colt. Worth about $1500, but with the box, $2200." WHAT?! A BOX is worth $700? But the prices realized on Gunbroker prove it is....to some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beemermark View Post
    Is the box and paperwork fake? Are the additional items correct (as to time period) for when the gun was made? I'm not sure what to beware of. The box should have the ID of the gun, inc serial number, so if I was interested I'd ask for a picture of the box end.
    My point is. I sold the Blue Python and it had no box or paperwork. That is how I bought it from the original owner. Now it has a box which is not original to the gun. To me the ad is deceptive.
    Same goes for the Nickel one that now has a hang tag.

    Al
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    Would qualify as consumer fraud in many US States. Can you keep an FFL if you engage in persistent fraud on the public, especially across State lines?


 
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