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    .44 40 ?

    Been looking around at SAAs at the various vendor sites and seeing some in .44 .40.

    I don't know anything about that caliber and am wondering what folks here who have them think of them.?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.44-40_Winchester

    Seems the cons are-

    Expensive store bought ammo.

    Difficult round to reload- with cases that are easy to damage.

    What do you guys who own and shoot them think?



    Do the .44 .40 and .44 special have the same bullet diameter?

    Is the .44 40 still a good round for hunting? Self defense?

    Was thinking about buying one and trying to get a 44 special cylinder if possible.

    Thanks!
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    I had a 44-40 and it was a great shooter. Very accurate. As far as crushing cases, it was very rare. I crushed no more than 2 or 3 cases. Just be observant when case is entering sizing die and have a slight bell on case mouth so the bullet will not crush case when seating the bullet. Normally, a 44-40 uses a 427 or a 428 sized bullet where as a 44 Special uses a 429-430 sized bullet.

    I tried to load a 429 sized bullet in mine but they wouldn't chamber. From what I understand, some 44-40 cylinders may chamber a 429. The only bullet I loaded in mine was the Remington and the Winchester 200 grain jsp which if I remember correctly was 425 diameter. They shot great in my Colt. I wanted to try a 427 sized lead bullet but they were scarce when I owned mine.

    Properly loaded, it would be fine for either hunting or sell defense. I had a Speer mid nineteen sixties manual and the load data at that time was extremely liberal. I have no doubt that the hotter loads would have dropped any deer.

    Some of the expects on the forum will have a lot more info on the 44-40 than I.

    Joe

    Forgot to add that the biggest problem to me in reloading 44-40 was having to lube the cases and then removing the lube after loading. A lot of people frowns upon doing this, but I would run them in my vibrator for a few minutes to remove the lube. To me, that was no worse than flying ammo halfway around the world in military aircraft and hauling in the back of deuce and half trucks.
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    "Difficult round to reload- with cases that are easy to damage.""As far as crushing cases, it was very rare." - I have a 1912 .44-40 Colt SAA and really like it. I have reloaded (fairly new to reloading) with Trail Boss 5.9grs and .428 " 200gr bullets. What exactly is the issue with reloading these cases? THANKS

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    I reload 44-40 on a Dillon SDB. I use Unique and .4275 diameter bullets. I shoot the same ammo in my 1866 Winchester. Just can't get in a hurry when loading. fwiw
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    The .45 Colt was developed by Colt. The .44-40(44 WCF)was a Winchester caliber.
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    We have 4 Uberti Cattleman Smoke Wagons in 44WCF as well as a Marlin 1889, two Marlin 1894, and one Winchester Miroku 1873. A bit of a leading curve to get set up to reload but well worth the effort. I use Hornady One Shot lube. Don't need to clean lube off once loaded.
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    I like the .44-40 and .38-40 in Colts, and have several. Both were well regarded defense and medium game rounds back when they were new. I like anything over a .357 diameter in my old Colts, or a .22.
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    The 44wcf is one of the better shooting calibers of my Colt SAA revolvers.



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    I figure if I can do that just pointing .. it’s capable of one ragged hole when bagged up.
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    I am still looking for a good 3rd generation shooter with a 4-3/4 barrel.
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