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    45 Colt - The proper name

    Hi, New here.

    Hope I have the proper forum to ask this question. I have always called the 45 Colt cartridge by that name and always get grief for doing so by those that call it by it's nickname, 45 Long Colt. Where can I find the historical data to show those that disagree with me, that the proper name given the cartridge was 45 Colt?

    Thank you in advance for your answers.

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    It is 45 Colt.

    People started calling it the "long" Colt in the 1880's to distinguish it from the 45 Schofield.
    The Schofield round has slipped into oblivion (almost), but people still refer to the 45 Colt as the long Colt.

    The correct name is 45 Colt.
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    .45 Long Colt is a more colloquial name given by those who either don't know better or simply to differentiate it from the .45 ACP or the .45 Schofield as noted above. I think most today wouldn't even know the .45 Schofield. The name .45 Colt is its official name by SAMMI which governs ammunition standards (best descriptor I can give it). I think most familiar with firearms and calibers know the difference and don't make a big deal of it.
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    Thank you for your answers. I do know the info above. I was hoping to get historical data that shows that it was given the name of 45 Colt.
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    As stated by every post above, the name is "the 45 Colt". I've also heard that the "Long Colt" miss-naming was to distinguish the older cartridge from the Schofield or more correctly the 45 Smith & Wesson, and the 45 ACP. Why isn't Schofield, or S&W, or ACP distinction enough from the original 45 Colt? Why does it have to further distinguished by adding "Long"?

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    Check out the Colt website listing for the SAA. Caliber listed as 45LC. Just sayin’

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    The earliest boxes were labelled "Colt's Revolver, Cal .45" or "Revolver Ball Cartridges, Calibre .45" But within a year or two catalogs, boxes, and actual head stamps were always ".45 Colt". The "long" slang came shortly thereafter.

    Just because people call something a .30-40 Krag today, doesn't mean it didn't start as a .30 USG. Or the .30-06, which started as.... and so on. People may coin a term and the ammo and reloading companies eventually start doing it too. That doesn't mean it's the name it STARTED with, which is what he's asking.
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    As all the others have stated the correct name is 45 Colt. But it's also one of those terms that through incorrect common usage you either accept or get wound up about, like clip/magazine, grips/stocks, or SAA for any single action clone that's not a Colt. I've gotten to the point where while I use the correct terms (I slip once in a while), I'm not really bothered by those who use the wrong terms. What it does when I hear the incorrect terms is that it immediately tells me a great deal about the actual knowledge of the person speaking.

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    Look here to see some examples of government issue .45 ammunition...A look at the .45 Colt/Schofield boxes...........



    To further confuse things, when the Army introduced the Model 1909 revolver it enlarged the rims to ensure more positive extraction. Good in the big New Service cylinder, but t was only possible to load three in an SAA cylinder as the rims tried to overlap.


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    Hello and welcome to the Colt Forum from West Virginia. Glad you have joined us here. A little more history here of the Colt .45 >>>>>>>>>

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