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    Looks like a job for Chiz
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    I'll do a group shot with the Sharps tomorrow. That back strap is attached with the screws to the frame of course, rookie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jplower View Post
    Buck, gosh almighty, just took a caliper to it, it's a dang 44-40! I never even checked as my old friend assumed it was a 45.
    Regardless of how good your calipers are, I don't think it's possible to accurately tell if your rusty relic is .44, not a .45. Other methods would be required, I think. Like removing and then weighing one of the unfired lead bullets, or somehow determining if the inside of the cylinder cavity is straight (.45) or tapered (.44-40).

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    The hammer could have got busted if it hit on a rock when dropped. wonder if there is a spent shell in the chamber? One of my 66 SRC's is a relic, but i don't know where it was found. I took it all apart and cleaned it up some years ago. Also have 'relic' Spencer that was found in a barn in eastern KS, but, other than the wood, it's not in bad shape. It may actually not qualify as relic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruster View Post
    Regardless of how good your calipers are, I don't think it's possible to accurately tell if your rusty relic is .44, not a .45. Other methods would be required, I think. Like removing and then weighing one of the unfired lead bullets, or somehow determining if the inside of the cylinder cavity is straight (.45) or tapered (.44-40).

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    Well, seeing as how the 38-40 was not introduced prior to 1878, and seeing as how the chamber dimensions are .431 after erosion and not .451, it is very safe to say that it was a 44-40. The bore at the muzzle, which show rifling, measures the same. The round still in the chambers have a flat tip, much wider than a 45 of the period. I'm not going to destroy a piece of history to examine a cartridge case, the caliper says it all. Here's the Sharps BTW
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    The photo in the first post that shows the bullet nose appears to be a flat nose that would be common to the 44wcf. Is that correct?

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    A great relic find! Wish we could know what happened with the first 3 shots fired!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe A. View Post
    The photo in the first post that shows the bullet nose appears to be a flat nose that would be common to the 44wcf. Is that correct?

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    Yes, 44 for sure. Chamber mouths just a bit over the .427 diameter, so obviously not a 45. Bore the same.

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    Rusty you might want to stick that moron sign on your forehead.😊

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruster View Post
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    I appreciated the information but the comment to Rfrushour was uncalled for, as he was speaking of the various ways that happens. I saw nothing moronic about that comment. In fact, he MP'd me with some very important information

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