12 Shot USFA Single Action

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saintclair

Discussion Starter · Aug 25, 2013

Today at a gun show, I purchased a NIB USFA .22 caliber SAA that has a 12 shot cylinder. It is blue and case colored by Turnbull (beautiful gun). The owner jokingly said, "This gun is outlawed in many states" (holds more than 10 shots without reloading). I plan to see if USFA can tell me how many of these were made, but since that have transitioned away from SAA's to the Zipgun, no one seems to answer their telephone.
Have any Forum members seen/heard of this model? On the box it is listed as the 12/22.

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keystonearms

· #2 · Aug 25, 2013

USFA is out of business so you can give up on calling them.

I have a Nickel 100% NIB that is just gorgeous. I believe it's called the Plinker

saintclair

Discussion Starter · #3 · Aug 25, 2013

keystone arms: The Plinker is a 6-shot revolver.

saintclair

Discussion Starter · #4 · Aug 25, 2013

I hope this internet jpg transfers:
file://localhost/Users/terrystclair/Desktop/100_1220.jpg

saintclair

Discussion Starter · #5 · Aug 25, 2013

It did not copy, so I Photobucketed it:

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keystonearms

· #6 · Aug 25, 2013

I knew one of the models was called the Plinker. Mine is a 12 shot also.

Hopalong

· #7 · Aug 25, 2013

Just beautiful.

keystonearms

· #8 · Aug 25, 2013

I checked my box and in the Model line it just says "12-22" and it also says it on the side of the frame so I guess it's just a 12-22!

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22_Matt

· #9 · Aug 25, 2013

The Model is 12/22. I ordered one when they fist introduced it. It took three months to come in. There was a special introductory price of $795 for the Blued finish.

It also shoots well.

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what would you say

· #10 · Aug 25, 2013

well.... you know I like them ! i snagged a 4 3/4" 12 shot about a year or so back. My cousin, who was sort of into guns at the time got the 5 1/2" for $900 when it had a Buy Now of $1000 . That lucky rascal. It would be bought Keystone Quick if it was listed now.

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what would you say

· #11 · Aug 25, 2013

i started work today at 7am with the wife (who works full time) watching both the boys on our weekend. (So she's thrilled) Thought I'd be done about 1pm Saturday . I should finish about 1AM now. This thread was the best thing that I've seen all day !

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saintclair

Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 25, 2013

what would you say: The 12-22 that I purchased was also a 4-3/4" Blue/CC. Mine has the standard black grips. I like it so much, I think I will fit some of my ivory grips on it. When I do that, I will post pictures of it. A gun that looks that nice, and is so unusual, merits having ivory on it.
BTW, I bet the total production is quite low. When I purchased a matched pair of the John Wayne Red River guns from them, I called and asked about total production a few years after they offered them for sale. The shop manger said they only sold 75 of those guns. I asked him, "Do you mean 75 matched pairs"? His response was, "No, 75 guns in total."

what would you say

· #13 · Aug 25, 2013 (Edited)

I had two internet purchases this year on Red Rivers myself. seperate purchases so they are not matched. A 4 3/4 and a 5 1/2" . funny thing is that the first gun was a Cabelas listing. They had the gun and black box. The other gun listed months later, but was from a gun dealer that was close to that Cabelas.. and sure enough, the first gun came from his shop. He sent me the Red box with the John Wayne holster that went with the first gun for $50 bucks. said the original buyer didn't want it. so I was very happy to get two complete sets. I bought alot of USFA's in about two years time. 2011-2012. I was a little late to the party.. USFA guns had good prices early on. Then they got expensive and hard to find. USFA stopped making SA's and prices doubled or more for used guns. I started buying Colts again.

One of our forum members has a strong connection with USFA and he's posted recently that USFA will be back in business with SA's again. wont be in the same state most likely, but talks like there is a come back in the works.

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skwcoltguy

· #14 · Aug 25, 2013 (Edited)

I came up with that name 12/22 for Doug. We were having dinner and discussing names for it and it just popped my head how 10/22 (10 shot .22) has been such a simple and now iconic name with Ruger, that I thought 12/22 would do the same for USFA. Had the production run been longer it may have. Coming full circle, Ruger licensed Doug's lock work design and is now using it. You may have noticed the old Single Six is now a ten shot. That cylinder is not full size so it was not going to be a 12 shooter like the 12/22. It is a small world sometimes.

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saintclair

Discussion Starter · #15 · Aug 25, 2013

skwcoltguy: Great information!! Thanks. Do you have any inside info on production numbers?

skwcoltguy

· #16 · Aug 26, 2013

I do not have the 12/22 numbers off the top of my head but I will ask.

saintclair

Discussion Starter · #17 · Aug 26, 2013

skwcoltguy, Thanks in advance for doing that. When I spoke with a production manager (may have been Doug?), I was surprised at how low the production was on guns such as the 12-22. I think he told me the Omnipotent had very low production numbers also. I have been looking for the short-barreled version of that gun for two years with no luck.

skwcoltguy

· #18 · Aug 26, 2013

The 12/22 was a big, for USFA, run, with just under 5,000 guns. All distributed by Davidson's, which was unique for USFA. Yes the Omni and some others numbered in the hundreds. Some far fewer.

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saintclair

Discussion Starter · #19 · Aug 26, 2013

I guess 5000 was a large production run for USFA's. The one I purchased at the gun show this weekend was the first one I had ever seen. All of my friends at the GS said the same. I guess 5000 is a small number for a country the size of the USA. My math tells me that is one 12-22 per 70,000 Americans.

DPris

· #20 · Aug 26, 2013

Donnelly just toyed with the Omni, as he did with other projects.
Despite displaying it repeatedly at SHOT & multiple promises, I was never able to get one from USFA.
I believe that one could have sold more if more had been available.
His marketing strategy has always been a mystery.

The 12/22 I had here was extremely nice, probably shoulda kept it, but in the end it was too nice.
Didn't want to scuff it up, while the 1975 Ruger Single-Six shows its mileage without guilt.

Denis

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