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Picked this up today.
Bluing is strong, not original magazine though.
How did I do?
Serial # 371561 Circa 1920 I think.
 

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Not as far as I can tell. Does show minimal amount of wear and there was a slight dusting of rust on the grip safety but no pitting. It came off pretty easy.
Shows "honest" wear on the top of the slide, a few nicks. Probably from a wedding ring, someone using an over the top slide rack technique. My ring matches up to these nicks if I try to do that.
The gun looks good but the pictures kind of give the illusion that it is re blued, it does not look that colr, it has more of a patina to it if you know what I mean.

Bowhunter.......where from? Youngstown, Ohio here.
 

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Up north a little. Lake county for me. Hard to tell via pics, but if orig blue, its a good price. I have a special place in my heart for these fine guns!!!!
 

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I'm with 'Bowhunter', I have to agree that it's a 'reblue'. Polishing marks, letters and serial numbers are slightly "washed" (note the pin on the right side of the frame) Can't tell by the color, but 'Bowhunter' may know my "old" gunsmith Walt over in Mentor and he could do it even 'nicer' than that. When we had the shop over in Eastlake, he did some "awesome" work and "proper restorations" on some Lugers that(straw colors and all) that had some guys at OGCA "agog"....yes, it's scary.

But bottom line is even he cannot duplicate the colors of the various eras that many of these guns were made, until you laid them up against or among 'others', in original condition, then they jump out at you. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

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What made me suspect was the parallel polishing marks that run horizontal on the slide and frame. The "C" looks a little washed out, and the lines of the frame and slide especially the slide catch look a little too rounded. Price still isn't bad for a reblue. I think the pic I supplied will allow for some comparison of the edges.


 

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Its already posted for sale, $500.00, on another forum.

I like these guns also, mine belonged to my Grandfather, it has an early 1917 DOB, he was a WWI pilot, I have never been able to establish if he carried it on duty or not, does not have any Military markings that I have found. I have not been able to find out if he could have carried a civilian issue or not.
 

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It has, without a doubt, been reblued. Apart from the polishing marks, the frame edges are way too soft.
 

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The first pictured pistol is clearly a reblue and not a very good one. Compare the sharp edges and satin texture in Bowhunter's picture to the soft edges and brushed look in the first picture.

Everyone should learn how to spot these reblues since it will save making expensive mistakes, and will prevent misleading those new to the hobby when describing the finish on guns.
 

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I just could not be sure as I have never owned one to compare it to.
But I have learned something in the process so I didn't totally lose out.
Thanks for all the knowledge.
 

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azuppo, I undeerstand your explanation, but surely you must have realized that a maker of Colt's reputation would never put out anything that looks like the pistol in question. If you have looked a new major-maker guns of any brand, you will never have seen any finishes that look remotely like the pictured gun.
 

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I agree, as the one thing I have learned in all these years is, "if something looks TOO good, it probably is". If anything is "THAT GOOD" then why are they selling it?
Litle lights and alarms should go off in your head and proceed with "caution". Same as to "price", if it's "too good" , beware. This does NOT 'usually' hold true if it's a friend, family or neighbor and you KNOW the background. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

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dant, I have to disagree that this guns looks "too good" to be true. To me, it looks "too bad" to be original.

As to why anyone would sell anything "that good," mint guns are sold all the time for the purpose of making money.
 

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NO, I did not say that the gun pictured above was "too good" , not mentioned in my first post, the one that said that said the gun was a "reblue".
In fact, I got a chance to "see" this gun , as Steve stopped by Saturday. Yes, as said, definitly a "reblue", a decent job, but the picture is far "nicer' than the actual gun. Better than "many" reblues we have seen, but ALL wrong,as many said above, the corners, the polishing marks, lettering, and mostly, the 'color' wrong. It's a "shooter".
As for the 'other ' comment, I still say and will always "ask" why if it's (the gun anyone is selling say at a gunshow) that "good" ,, then why are they selling it.
Same goes with grips and parts and whatever, especially when they are very collectible and or look "too good". I hesitate and have saved MANY people by "hesitating" to whip out the money and then find out later it was , indeed "too good" (to be true!) Patience IS a 'virtue'.

Besides if it was THAT valuable or scarce and of such "quality", would it be at some out of the way gun show or garage sale or such?
Oh yes, I have seen and found LOTS over the years at small shows and garage sales, but this is the "exception, NOT the "rule". Been doing this since the mid 60's and in that time have missed very few gun shows around the midwest. My wife and I have displayed around the country since the 80's and early 90's at many of these shows too. AND I am 'still' learning............................. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

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I've got a 1903 sans grips I found in an old house. I believe it's been in a fire. It has minor pitting and was frozen but the metal isn't deformed and it freed up so everything works cept the springs are bad. It's a .32 ACP so I'm thinking it would be ok to restore it and shoot it since the .32 isn't a strong round I don't think losing the temper would be a problem. What do y'all think?
 

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very bad idea,keep it as a relic, hang it on the wall but dont fire it.eyes, fingers ect are quite expensive to replace /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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rebel727; the .32acp is NOT a strong round,huh? My wife's uncle,thought he'd "try out" an old .32 short Iver Johnson top break he had for years,and never fired. He'd picked up some old W-W brand .32 acp. at a flea market. Since the .32 acp is semi rimless,there is enough of a rim or lip to hold it in the chambers.

I had warned him by phone,not to do this has these older "cheaper makes" didn't have the best steel,but if he "must", put the gun in a vice in his workshop,in his barn.and use a string to pull trigger from a safe distance.

Yup,it blew the I-J to bits!!! And this I-J was in nice shape. That metal in your .32 auto has lost its strength!

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azuppo, I undeerstand your explanation, but surely you must have realized that a maker of Colt's reputation would never put out anything that looks like the pistol in question. If you have looked a new major-maker guns of any brand, you will never have seen any finishes that look remotely like the pictured gun.

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Since I don't own anything prior to the early 50's No I did not know, I suspected it was but was not sure. At any rate now I know & since I was the one that bought it and owns it, not a real big deal to me. If someone else buys it they will be informed that is is reblued. So long story short, no harm, no foul.
For a few hundred dollars I honestly do not care, I throw that away at a trip to the local Casino and usually don't have anything to show for it when I get back.
My purchase, my mistake, although I really don't consider it to be one of apocalyptic proportions.
Besides that I actually like it. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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