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I have been able to find two revolvers that belonged to A.J. Palmer who was a champion target shooter from Connecticut during the 1930s. The first revolver is a New Service Target that was shipped in 1938 and chambered in .44 Russian. This was specially ordered since that caliber was combined with the .44 Special in 1913 and all were dual marked from that point on. Mr. Palmer was very particular however and wanted to shoot only the .44 Russian cartridge so he ordered the gun so it was chambered for just that cartridge. The gun was fitted with a special set of stocks. The second revolver is a Shooting Master chambered in .38 Special and fitted with a high blade front sight and a Micro adjustable rear sight. It is also equipped with a set of wrap around Roper stocks.




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Cam,
Does the New Service Target actually have a special order 5 1/2" barrel or is it 6" and the letter is in error? As you know the standard NS Target barrel was 7 1/2" with a very few made with 6" barrels. These are the only barrel lengths I have ever seen on the Target model. If the barrel is indeed 5 1/2" it would have been a special order feature and very, very rare if not unique.
 

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Beautiful revolvers!
Do you have any info to share on the owner? Googling AJ Palmer or Andrew J Palmer JR doesn't bring anything up.
I have read about Mr. Palmer in a couple of old newspaper articles. One where he and several other target shooters from his shooting club had a match against several members of the Hartford police pistol team. Those members included J. Henry Fitzgerald of Colt as well as Captain Ed Langrish.
 

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Cam,
Does the New Service Target actually have a special order 5 1/2" barrel or is it 6" and the letter is in error? As you know the standard NS Target barrel was 7 1/2" with a very few made with 6" barrels. These are the only barrel lengths I have ever seen on the Target model. If the barrel is indeed 5 1/2" it would have been a special order feature and very, very rare if not unique.
John. I should have mentioned that the barrel is indeed a 6" so I can only assume that it was a typo as most of the .44 Russian chambered Colt revolvers were of the 5 1/2" length.
 

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Beautiful revolvers!
Do you have any info to share on the owner? Googling AJ Palmer or Andrew J Palmer JR doesn't bring anything up.
Here is one of the newspaper articles that I was referring to. You will see A.J. Palmer's name listed with the five civilian shooters. This match was held at the range of Remington Arms Company.



And this was the event that Captain Ed Langrish debuted his gift from J. Henry Fitzgerald, an engraved Shooting Master that also sits in our collection:



I guess it was possible that A.J. Palmer was using one of the two Colt revolvers shown above on that day as well as Captain Langrish using the engraved Shooting Master.
 

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Those are wonderful Cam! I would like to see the back side of the stocks with the medallion if you get around to it. Love the Ropers on the other gun!
Travis. Here are pictures of both sets from the two guns shown. The set from the NST with the medallions has the small square notches for a jig fixture but it also has vertical milling machine end mill marks and I don't think that Matheis Gagne made the Roper Stocks back then using a machine. Kwill (Kevin Williams) wrote an article on the Ropers and maybe he could give us his opinion. I will e-mail him and ask if he can take a look.

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Roper stocks on Shooting Master:


 

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Cam,
Thanks for posting. I will check some of mine, but I am almost positive I have several pairs the have the vertical milling machine end mill marks. I will post some pictures. I am leaning toward Roper in my opinion. However as for the medallions.... I know he did some with them at least for S&W that I have seen in his illustrations. Now did he install these?? I don't know that we will ever know the answer to that one.
 

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Congratulations on another great pair of Colt revolvers from in my opinion a period which gave us the best of the best. Glad they are in the hands of a caretaker who appreciates them and is willing to share them with us and preserve the history. Kudos!

Tom
 

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Absolutely Magnificent additions to an already spectacular collection and lettered to a top rated competitive shooter of yesterday. I notice that the NST has the Shooting Master smooth cylinder latch release and the Shooting Master has the checkered release. Also on the Shooting Master does the letter state that the Micro rear was factory applied? I like that and the build up of the Patridge front sight, that must present a clear sight picture. In addition would the NST barrel be a left over from the 44 Russian chambering days? I notice that it has the bolster barrel and not the straight wall stove pipe that some of the older barrels exhibit. I get excited by all these minute details especially in factory custom guns. Again just outstanding!
 
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