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Added a Colt Artillery to My Collection

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I just added a Colt "Artillery" revolver to my collection of historical firearms. I thought some of you might like to see it. First; however, is a brief description of how the "Artillery" Colt came about.

In 1893, the U.S. Ordnance Department collected a large number of revolvers that had been used by Cavalry units since 1873. Most of these guns had been carried during the Indian Wars by the 7th Cavalry and other regiments. In 1898, over 16,000 of these guns were altered at the Springfield Armory. During this process, they were disassembled, cleaned, and inspected. Unserviceable parts were replaced, barrels were shortened to 5 ½" length, and front sights repositioned. These refurbished revolvers were then reassembled without any effort to keep serial numbered parts together. They were called "Artillery" revolvers because some were issued to light artillery units. Virtually all of these guns were put into service during the Spanish-American War (1898) and the Philippine Insurrection (1899-1902). This is the same sidearm that Roosevelt's “Rough Riders” carried while charging up San Juan Hill.

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Post #12 of this string provides a brief description of the serial numbers and marks found on the various components.

I'll send it to Mr. Kopec for his authentication when I have the money.

Rusty Edwards
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Thank you for posting the information on your Artillery model. I know very little about them; however, I enjoyed reading your research. It looks like a nice example. I also like the Rough Riders film photo. :) Welcome to the Forum!
Congratulations on your Artillery model. I am not saying this isn't necessarily not correct, and sending to John Kopec will be money well spent, but I have never seen an Artillery model with the U.S. marking that close to the patent date markings.
You have a nice looking Artillery! Thanks for the posting.
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Congratulations on your Artillery model. I am not saying this isn't necessarily not correct, and sending to John Kopec will be money well spent, but I have never seen an Artillery model with the U.S. marking that close to the patent date markings.
Page 405 of Cochran’s Colt Peacemaker Encyclopedia says: “This ‘U.S.’ mark is usually encountered just to the right of the patent dates but infrequently it will be found crowding the patent dates and not parallel with the base of the frame; it has even been observed stamped upside down....”

Page 406 of the same book shows a photo of an Artillery revolver that has the “U.S” in the same location as my gun. Page 407 shows a picture of another Artillery revolver where the “U.S” is actually touching the patent dates.

Rusty Edwards
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A "Friday afternoon" gun - reassembled & stamped by a worker thinking about that growler of beer waiting for him when he got home?

Nice find - I enjoyed the info on each part.
Page 405 of Cochran’s Colt Peacemaker Encyclopedia says: “This ‘U.S.’ mark is usually encountered just to the right of the patent dates but infrequently it will be found crowding the patent dates and not parallel with the base of the frame; it has even been observed stamped upside down....”

Page 406 of the same book shows a photo of an Artillery revolver that has the “U.S” in the same location as my gun. Page 407 shows a picture of another Artillery revolver where the “U.S” is actually touching the patent dates.

Rusty Edwards
Well, this justifies the location of the U.S. markings on your Artillery model. Like I said, I wasn't saying it was incorrect, just that I had never seen one like this.
I think the gun is correct, no cal inscripton on the barrel, more photos (serial on frame, triggerguard, barrel, grip frame)
Please be sure to post John's findings when you send this revolver to him for his expert opinion.
hmagg, thanks for your offer to authenticate my Artillery Colt. While your offer is appreciated, my intent was simply to share a photo of my new Colt and briefly describe some of the serial numbers and marks on the various components.

I'm going to send it to Mr. Kopec for his authentication. In the meantime, I've gone over this piece in detail using both of his fine reference books, as well as two of Cochran's books on the subject.

Rusty Edwards


The "U.S." marked black-powder frame has the serial number 140054. It is from a Cavalry revolver that left the factory in 1891. My research indicates this gun was likely owned by the NY Militia. The frame is stamped "RAC" above the serial number, which is the mark of Rinaldo A. Carr, a government inspector at the Colt factory from 1890 to 1903 and later. The hammer slot has the factory inspector marks "K" over "O". According to Cochran's "Colt Peacemaker Encyclopedia," this is correct for 1890.

The trigger guard bears the serial #: 3618. It was manufactured as a component of a Cavalry revolver made in 1874. The small letter "A" stamped below the number on this part is the mark of Orville W. Ainsworth, the principal U.S. Government sub-inspector at the Colt factory from 1873 to 1874. The nearest Cavalry revolver in my registry is Serial #: 3623. This gun belonged to Company K, 5th U.S. Cavalry in 1874.

The butt-strap bears the serial #: 6372 and was originally on a Cavalry revolver made in 1874. According to "Colt Cavalry & Artillery Revolvers, a Continuing Study" by Kopec and Fenn, the 7th US Cavalry drew approximately 300 Colt revolvers from Production Lot 6, which had guns in the 5505-6516 serial number range. While there is no evidence that this part is from a 7th US Cavalry revolver, we do know that guns on both side of this serial number, 6269 and 6450, have a documented 7th U.S. Cavalry history and/or battle association.

The barrel on this piece has serial #: 5576 and also bears the small letter "A" attributed to Orville W. Ainsworth, the principal U.S. Government sub-inspector at the Colt factory from 1873 to 1874. It also has the letter "P", which is the government proof mark. This barrel was originally 7 ½" long and came from a Cavalry revolver made in 1874. The barrel's serial #: 5576 is also from Product Lot 6, which had guns in the 5505-6516 serial number range, and are known to have been drawn upon by the 7th U.S. Cavalry before the Custer Massacre.

The cylinder of my Artillery revolver has partial serial #: 1?08 and has the faint Ordnance Sub-Inspector mark "DFC". This mark was used by government inspector David F. Clark, who worked at the Colt factory during the 1880s. Although this gives us the timeframe the cylinder was made, it is impossible to determine the complete serial number or exact year of manufacture of the gun from which it came.

The bottom right panel of the one-piece walnut stock has the "RAC" cartouche of Rinaldo A, Carr, a government inspector at Colt between 1890 and 1903.
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hmaag resides in Switzerland. I suspect sending an SAA to him would entail quite a large risk. From his posting, I think he just wanted to see more pictures. Getting your SAA into and out of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia will probably be a bit safer if no state employee knows it is a gun.
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To Ruster, and all SAA collectors: Never send a gun produced after 1870 to the Europe or to Switzerland. Laws are changing* and the gun will never come back and risk to be distroyed. Your Artillery SAA frame has the serial number 149954. In John Kopec's Book, page 255 I found: Colt's records show that the highest serial numbered US Cavalry SAA #140361 left the factory April 29 1891. Possibly the 149954 SAA never left the factory.
* One reason I sent my Cavalry SAA 5773 back to the USA
Please be sure to post John's findings when you send this revolver to him for his expert opinion.
Then we can evaluate Kopec's evaluation.
To Ruster, and all SAA collectors: Never send a gun produced after 1870 to the Europe or to Switzerland. Laws are changing* and the gun will never come back and risk to be distroyed. Your Artillery SAA frame has the serial number 149954. In John Kopec's Book, page 255 I found: Colt's records show that the highest serial numbered US Cavalry SAA #140361 left the factory April 29 1891. Possibly the 149954 SAA never left the factory.
* One reason I sent my Cavalry SAA 5773 back to the USA
That is an alert catch on the out of range serial number. I looked the number up in my files and it still didn't register with me that it was 95XX numbers past the end of U.S. production. Perhaps Ruster mis-read the frame number?
Serial Number Correction.

To Ruster, and all SAA collectors: Never send a gun produced after 1870 to the Europe or to Switzerland. Laws are changing* and the gun will never come back and risk to be distroyed. Your Artillery SAA frame has the serial number 149954. In John Kopec's Book, page 255 I found: Colt's records show that the highest serial numbered US Cavalry SAA #140361 left the factory April 29 1891. Possibly the 149954 SAA never left the factory.
* One reason I sent my Cavalry SAA 5773 back to the USA
I mistyped the serial number on the original posting. The actual serial number is 140054. I went back and corrected the posting. Sorry for the confusion.

Rusty
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That is good news for the gun surely looks righteous in the photos.
Some Photos of My Artillery

Here's some close-up photos of my Artillery revolver. The photo of the frame and trigger guard serial numbers was attached earlier. The photo of the bottom of the barrel shows the early position of the "A" (Ainsworth) & "P" (Proof) marks per page 37 of "Colt Cavalry & Artillery Revolvers, A Continuing Study" by Kopec & Fenn. The script barrel address is also consistent with this being an early Ainsworth inspected barrel.

Frame: 140054 RAC
Trigger Guard: 3618 A
Barrel: 5576 A
Butt Frame: 6372
Cylinder: Partial 1?08 DFC
Grips: RAC (Bottom Left Panel)

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hmagg, thanks for your offer to authenticate my Artillery Colt. While your offer is appreciated, my intent was simply to share a photo of my new Colt and briefly describe some of the serial numbers and marks on the various components.

I'm going to send it to Mr. Kopec for his authentication. In the meantime, I've gone over this piece in detail using both of his fine reference books, as well as two of Cochran's books on the subject.

Rusty Edwards


The "U.S." marked black-powder frame has the serial number 140054. It is from a Cavalry revolver that left the factory in 1891. My research indicates this gun was likely owned by the NY Militia. The frame is stamped "RAC" above the serial number, which is the mark of Rinaldo A. Carr, a government inspector at the Colt factory from 1890 to 1903 and later. The hammer slot has the factory inspector marks "K" over "O". According to Cochran's "Colt Peacemaker Encyclopedia," this is correct for 1890.

The trigger guard bears the serial #: 3618. It was manufactured as a component of a Cavalry revolver made in 1874. The small letter "A" stamped below the number on this part is the mark of Orville W. Ainsworth, the principal U.S. Government sub-inspector at the Colt factory from 1873 to 1874. The nearest Cavalry revolver in my registry is Serial #: 3623. This gun belonged to Company K, 5th U.S. Cavalry in 1874.

The butt-strap bears the serial #: 6372 and was originally on a Cavalry revolver made in 1874. According to "Colt Cavalry & Artillery Revolvers, a Continuing Study" by Kopec and Fenn, the 7th US Cavalry drew approximately 300 Colt revolvers from Production Lot 6, which had guns in the 5505-6516 serial number range. While there is no evidence that this part is from a 7th US Cavalry revolver, we do know that guns on both side of this serial number, 6269 and 6450, have a documented 7th U.S. Cavalry history and/or battle association.

The barrel on this piece has serial #: 5576 and also bears the small letter "A" attributed to Orville W. Ainsworth, the principal U.S. Government sub-inspector at the Colt factory from 1873 to 1874. It also has the letter "P", which is the government proof mark. This barrel was originally 7 ½" long and came from a Cavalry revolver made in 1874. The barrel's serial #: 5576 is also from Product Lot 6, which had guns in the 5505-6516 serial number range, and are known to have been drawn upon by the 7th U.S. Cavalry before the Custer Massacre.

The cylinder of my Artillery revolver has partial serial #: 1?08 and has the faint Ordnance Sub-Inspector mark "DFC". This mark was used by government inspector David F. Clark, who worked at the Colt factory during the 1880s. Although this gives us the timeframe the cylinder was made, it is impossible to determine the complete serial number or exact year of manufacture of the gun from which it came.

The bottom right panel of the one-piece walnut stock has the "RAC" cartouche of Rinaldo A, Carr, a government inspector at Colt between 1890 and 1903.
Not a specific hit but your serial falls in with several sent to Trp A, 1st Nevada Vol. Cav.
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