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got this in an e-mail and cant say it`s legit. >U.S. Brings Back the .45
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>January 27, 2006: After two decades of use, the U.S. Department of
Defense
>is getting rid of its Beretta M9 9mm pistol, and going back to the
11.4mm
>(.45 caliber) weapon. There have been constant complaints about the
lesser
>(compared to the .45) hitting power of the 9mm. And in the last few
years,
>SOCOM (Special Operations Command) and the marines have officially
adopted
>.45 caliber pistols as “official alternatives” to the M9 Beretta. But
now
>SOCOM has been given the task of finding a design that will be
suitable as
>the JCP (Joint Combat Pistol). Various designs are being evaluated,
but all
>must be .45 caliber and have a eight round magazine (at least), and
high
>capacity mags holding up to 15. The new .45 will also have a rail up
top
>for
>attachments, and be able to take a silencer. Length must be no more
than
>9.65 inches, and width no more than 1.53 inches.
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>The M1911 .45 caliber pistol that the 9mm Beretta replaced in 1985,
was, as
>its nomenclature implied, an old design. There are several modern
designs
>out there for .45 caliber pistols that are lighter, carry more ammo
and are
>easier to maintain than the pre-World War I M1911 (which is actually
about
>a
>century old, as a design). The Department of Defense plans to buy
645,000
>JCPs.
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>SOCOM will, with input from other branches, handle the evaluation and
final
>selection. This will take place this year, and if the military moves
with
>unaccustomed alacrity, troops could start getting their JCPs next
year. But
>don’t hold your breath.
 

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I have not heard that rumor; however, SOCOM always is the first to try new weapons and gives their opp.

I believe the findings and would agree its the best move.

If I had to guess, I would say the story is true (if I HAD to bet).
 

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It would be nice if we can get rid of the Beretta M9. I've never had a problem with their function or accuracy, but I'm also quite anal about my weapon's cleanliness.

BTW, there's a firearm already out there that meets those requirements, it happens to be an H&K. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Oh, outside of the rediculous ability to mount things to the top of the firearm. WTF is that all about? Just get us a rail and a light. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

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personally i would like to see the double eagle considered, i think it`s as good as the beretta, the one i fired yrs ago was accurate and reliable. an added bonus would be an american legend making our sidearm again. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 

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.45 ACP back from the grave /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Why dig up again a fossilized cartridge. There are better catridges around for defense purposes these days. For instance 10 mm or .40 S&W. Or the 5.7 * 28mm from FN Herstal?
Why the heck .45 ACP again? As Jeff Cooper said the hitting power of a .45 ACP isn't that wunderfull. It like exchanging lead for old rusted iron.
Still not over the 9mm syndrome after 20 years, I guess.....
 

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the knock down power of a ,45 IS wonderful. While a 10mm and 40mm are good too, why not remake the old .45 and take advantage of the cheap ammo and guns. Everyone makes a .45 and ammo is plentiful.....

I dunno if you need to put your finger on "which is the best" because either way, I don't feel the 9mm is the answer.

I feel if DOD went to bid on a new service pistol and stipulated the .45.......we would get a good piece for a good price that would be strong and reliable with plenty of knock down!
 

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I've seen this rumored in several places. I'm hearing some stopping failures reported from the Middle East which are focusing some military leaders on returning to the older, larger calibers. A buddy of mine, who is an armorer in the AF, was recently here for training on a "new" version of the M-14, they are putting in service. He also mentioned the possibility of them looking at replacing the 9mm.

History does seem to repeat itself.
 

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if the military could use h.p.'s then 10mm or .40 s&w would be a good choice. but they can't. so you need a large slug to make a large hole, i.e. the .45acp or maybe .45 gap.
 
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