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"Bob" Just plain old "Bob".

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A couple of years back now I saw this gun done up as a consecutive pair. Frankly at the time, although I have seen some really nice engraved guns and been lucky enough to own a few, this was the nicest engraved SAAs I had seen. The engraver is Phil Quigley working out of Phoenix, Arizona.

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I like to shoot engraved guns. If that becomes a habit it is easy to have engraving patterns that become your favorite as well. I have become a big fan of Cuno Helfrich's work. And once bitten it is easy to pick out pieces that the Master Cuno, did himself. My picks for Helfrich's master pieces are, "From the Boys" a Texas shipped gun 1895, #163605 and Bob Meldrum's gold inlayed gun, shipped to Colorado in 1904 # 253161.

Both guns were artwork done when Cuno Helfrich's skills were at their peak in my opinion and both most agree, were guns engraved by Cuno's own hands. All reasons for these two engraving patterns to really stand out in a history of highly engraved guns done over several decades in Helfrich's shop. But we aren't talking Helfrich here. The engraver for this particular SAA is Phil Quigley. And this time the project is "Bob", a close copy of some of Helfrich's best work, the "Meldrum Gold Inlay Colt".

Wonderful story and history behind this engraving even before it got to Bob Meldrum. One of two gold inlayed guns with inscription that
Helfrich's shop did. One of only 4 factory engraved with pearl stocks. And finally to really set the stage for an exceptional gun one of very few with gold inlay from Helfrich's shop. A interesting and rare engraving pattern if nothing else. And likely a pattern that Helfrich himself did on this particular gun while leaving so subtle clues to that effect..

I asked Phil to make a few changes on the engraving pattern and didn't use a Colt. My family brands going back 1890s or earlier were to be added. I let Phil do a pattern of his own design for the family brands and think he hit part of the project out of the freekin park! Perfectly shaped and fit, one piece ivory by Paul Persinger that should hold up to any actual shooting just fine. I photographed "Bob" in the white. Tomorrow I'll antique blue the gun which should make the gold inlays really pop! What I will be looking to re-create is the same old worn look of Bob Meldrum's after a hundred + years of wear, tear and honest use.

I like to name my favorite guns for specific reasons. Silly I know. But the guns have to be really good (as in a good shooter) for me to want it engraved. So I figure they deserve a name. . I shipped off "Lucky" the other day. Still have "Cutter", "Unicorn", "From the Boys", "Cuffs", "Thistle", "Thick" and "Thin".

This one is "Bob". Not "Bad Bob", or "Albino Bob" or even "Mean Old Bob" this is just "Bob".


I thought others might enjoy the new photos and comparisons on the finishes.






























More on "Bad Bob's" gun here...

http://www.coltforum.com/forums/single-action-army/185873-bad-bob-s-colt.html

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Outstanding! And an interesting read too. Thanks for sharing with us.

Tom

edit: I know next to nothing about engraving. But I do enjoy looking and learning the stories behind the who’s and why’s.
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"I ain't got the words."

Oh, boy. Big Helfricht fan here, too.
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Wicked cool, sir :) You come up with the best ideas for SAA projects!
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Holy cow. That’s incredible in every single way imaginable.
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Thanks guys! Always fun to see a project get finished. This one took 16 months. Worth the wait I think.

The antique blue is done. Much as I'd like to claim responsibility for this part of the project I can't. Final finishes start with metal prep. Phil knew exactly how I antique blue. He does something similar himself. Amazing to me his level of metal prep is actually perfect. And I am one picky bastard about getting the metal prep right. Damn! Honestly I think the entire gun is perfect, along with the one piece ivory that Paul Persinger fit from my blanks. Amazed as it is literally the first gun I've had in the last 40 years that I didn't want to immediately do something drastic to. The blueing and I am done! Yahoo! Experiences like this in life is where the name comes from :cool: You may not get many and you never know if you'll get another!

The photos are in terrible light at midnight here....but I think you can see where I am going with all this. An acquired taste for a final finish for sure. Folks generally love it or hate it. I've had a few engraved guns done like this. A couple of them I used a lot were eventually nickeled because I didn't like the antique blue's fragile finish and resulting up keep. Then later I have always regretted adding the nickel. This one will stay as is, a tribute to "Bad Bob's" original gun.

antique blue





in the white


in the white



Antique blue again
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Good old "Bob" is another "Cutter" gun. In that "Bob" is a good enough six gun to easily cut playing cards on edge with at any distance I can actually see the edge of a playing card. Though truth be told, all that really mattered to me on these guns was this.....



I wouldn't be where I am, doing what I am doing, without family going back three generations (and more) to support us. No doubt we have been truly blessed. After we are all long dead and gone this piece of art, carved in steel and ivory, will hopefully get its new owner to ponder a moment or two what it all meant on the sunny slopes of yesteryear. May be he/she will go pop a cap or two in this one. I'd like to think that would still give me great pleasure to hear "Bob" was still getting used as intended.
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Very nice! That came out well and worth the wait. Hopefully my gun will be arriving ftom the engraver today. Love the brands.
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WOW...! them boys are all scratch'd up....cain't shoot'em...? Piece of history & Cool!
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Got to love the work of the work put into those old pieces. Works of art some say.... I think those folks REALLY enjoyed what they did and it shows in the final product!
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SBH said:
….that boy's all scratch'd up....should shoot'em...?

mo' better...

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And better photos this morning...







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That came out very nice. I am glad you didn't show me this when I was talking to you about my project or I might not have been able to stay with bright nickle! But I agree with your statement at the time, "nickle is the classic engraved colt finish", so who knows, if I ever get into my head to engrave another SAA, maybe I'll send it your way for bluing :)
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Thanks! I thought I was pretty good on metal prep but think Phil did a better job here than I would have. It made the blueing easy by comparison. But I really do think "antique blue" is an acquired taste and not for every gun. I started this project with all the gold inlay in mind from the beginning to be an antique blued gun to mimic Meldrum's original. When you look at Meldrum's original gun and the duplicate gun made up by Turnbull in new blue and case more recently I lost interest in the new version.

new Turnbull Meldrum...




the original, well worn, Meldrum gun




and my version, a mix of new case colored hammer, new gold and "old" blue

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Thanks! I thought I was pretty good on metal prep but think Phil did a better job here than I would have. It made the blueing easy by comparison. But I really do think "antique blue" is an acquired taste and not for every gun. I started this project with all the gold inlay in mind from the beginning to be an antique blued gun to mimic Meldrum's original. When you look at Meldrum's original gun and the duplicate gun made up by Turnbull in new blue and case more recently I lost interest in the new version.

new Turnbull Meldrum...




the original, well worn, Meldrum gun




and my version, a mix of new case colored hammer, new gold and "old" blue

These three photos really are a great comparison. I love the way the antique blue looks.
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Once again, Yahoody, you leave me in stunned admiration and awe.
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Took me a while to get the right photos. But here is a better comparison for actual colors....in all three finishes.


new Turnbull Meldrum...




the original, well worn, Meldrum gun




and my version, a mix of new case colored hammer, new gold and "old" blue

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Just wow. Not only perfectly done, but with the old family history too!!!! Yes Yahoody, you are blessed.
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