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Idiot is too kind a term for these people. They have absolutely no grasp of history. One day, the wolf will be at their door and all they will be able to do is to sit in a circle, hold hands, and sing Cumbiya /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 

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This "crap" has been going on for years in our socialistic neighbor to the North. Ever wonder why so many Canadians are "parting out" their vintage handguns,and selling them "piece by piece " on ebay???

Have got some good finds there to extend/improve the actions of some of my vintage Colts and Smiths,but it is sad,just the same.

The "4 inch and under rule" is weird,according to a lady friend who is a "shrink". She relates it to some sexual hangups on the part of Canadian leaders!

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I don't actually know what firearm owners are subject to in the STATES & CANADA but here in Australia to own legal firearms you must be a member of a Pistol Club, Hunting Club,etc.It is illegal to own Pistol/rifles without belonging to the above.If it is not a requirement to be a club member in order to own firearms in the STATES & CANADA perhaps it should be.
We shooters appear to be the only one's who know that 99% of the Murder's,violence,Robbery's etc with the use of guns
are committed by Criminals and not licence shooters who just wish to enjoy what they do.
BUT can a POLITICAN ever get that through there stubbon heads NO NO NO.
You have a registered gun and they know they can take it.
As for the CRIM'S they can get a handgun from anywhere.
The law being the way it is leaves us to chance.
Get caught with an illegal gun and you go straight to jail
(do not collect $200 and do not pass go)MANDORTY Sentence
of ten bloody years,And make them tell where they got the gun from so that the DICK who supplied the gun also goes down,if they don't tell add another five years for every time they have to be asked until they do COUGH UP.
 

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If it is not a requirement to be a club member in order to own firearms in the STATES & CANADA perhaps it should be.

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Sorry Bob, but I can't agree with you on that one. Just because that crap got shoved down your throat doesn't mean we all have to taste it. Here in the States most of us don't have to be licensed or belong to any organization to own firearms and we feel sorry for those that do. I have owned guns for almost 40 years and have never commited any crime with a gun. So will making me join some kind of a club and require me to get a license make me a better gunowner? I don't think so and it's a shame you think that way, but it does show how your government is programing you.
A criminal by definition lives outside of the law so putting restrictions on honest law abiding citizens doesn't deter criminal activity.
 

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No Bob, here it is not a club membership, it is a constitutional right, but it is under attack.
 

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If it is not a requirement to be a club member in order to own firearms in the STATES & CANADA perhaps it should be.

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Requiring people to belong to clubs, to pass a course so the government can pronounce you qualified to own a gun, etc. These are exactly the kinds of things that eventually lead to just the sort of bu**sh*t like this half-witted liberal party is trying to pull in Canada. The left will ALWAYS present this stuff as "Common Sense and Reasonable" measures and the left will ALWAYS lie to you. Why how could anyone be against making sure you take a safety course before you can own a gun? We require people to prove they can drive a car before we let them on the streets don't we? It's not about safety, they know exactly what they're doing. It's about systematically chipping away at your rights and desensitizing you to what they're doing and by the time you wake up to it it's too late.

I'm sorry my friend but it appears that you may have already partially swallowed the pill.
 

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But the liberal politicians and organizations that do the legwork ARE idiots. They have been brainwashed into thinking it will make the world a better place and/or essentially bought by the prospect of continued political success for their support and they are all just pawns. Those behind the thrust are NOT idiots nor politicians. They know the requirements for world domination are economic control and elimination of the ability of the populace to physically resist. Conspiracy theory? You bet. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 

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'gun control' when you cut to the bottom line it really isn't about guns, it's about control
 

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As long as there are morons, politicians and egos, the three will combine to produce the absolute worst society can come up with.
Believe it.
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bottom line gentlemen: it`s up to US to see to it that our children/grandchildren continue to enjoy our RIGHT to own/use weapons.i am hoping most members of this forum are nra life members, if not you are dodging YOUR duty to the future gun owners. if you are a lifemember then sign those kids/grandkids up too. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 

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I have to say. That is an extremely profound statement that packs a world of truth into a very few words. Bravo.
 

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I hope that all US citizens complaining are doing something about it... It's easy, if you are not already a member please join the NRA... They are constantly fighting the stinking liberals like Hillary and Ted to name just two for us all...

Lets stop talking and comense to doing...

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I know I'm preaching to the choir here. Criminals owning firearms is already illegal. Why don't we try enforcing the existing gun laws prior to saying they don't work so we need more. At least in Louisiana we have some of the most common sense gun laws in the country. This of course does not include New Orleans. For years the rest of the state would've been happy to let them idiots go off on their own.

For example in Louisiana (La) your car is considered an extension of your home. Hence you can carry in your vehicle anything you want that's legal in any condition you want. This really did cut back very quickly on the amount of car jackings. If you're a business owner you can legally carry concealed at you business location, on your way to and from your business location, and when going to the bank from your business location.

It's legal to carry anywhere as long as your weapon is in plain sight i.e. hip holster, except at State and Federal buildings or businesses who don't allow firearms.

While on your property you have no obligation to retreat, warn the other party etc prior to shooting them. Of course if it's just a kid walking across your lawn common sense says your in trouble if you shoot them. They'll still charge you with a crime. But within reason this applies. For example if I wake up in the middle of the night and someone is trying to kick in a window at my house I can and will shoot them with a 12 gauge. I can still shoot them even if they're trying to run away after the first shot or when they see me. Since you car is considered an extension of your house all of this applies while in your vehicle.

You as a private citizen are allowed to shoot some else in order to protect the life of another. For example if you were to see a cop receiving a beat down you are allowed to go over and shoot the criminal doing said beat down. This just happened to a friend of mine in Baton Rouge. The cop is a friend not the citizen that helped him. But I'd like to shake his hand.

So despite the poverty, the lack of educational opportunities, and the incredibly inept, stupid politicians I believe I'll stay put here in Louisiana.

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This I don't understand.

Shooting somebody to save someone's live, okay that I can understand, but shooting someone for kicking in a window?

That I do not understand.
Protecting your property I understand, but do you need a 12 gauge shotgun to do that?
Is kicking in a window enough reason to take a life?

In what kind of a society do you guys live in?

This is a part of America I will never understand.
 

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He's referring to someone kicking in a window to break into your house in the middle of the night and you would be absolutely justified in killing them. You can bet that if I wake up in my house to that happening I've got a CZ 75 loaded with 15 rounds of Federal Hydra-Shoks waiting for them. My dad was a cop for over 20 years. They always told people if you have to shoot someone breaking in your house make sure you kill 'em that way they can't sue you. Also, it appears that our laws here in Georgia are very similar to Louisiana, our car is an extension of our home. I would bet the majority of cars here in GA contain a firearm. It's pretty easy to get a carry permit as well, just pay about $50 in fees and pass the GBI background check. I'm so thankful that I don't live in Canada, Europe, Australia, etc. Nothing against those places but it's just that we have in the US the greatest tradition of liberty and self-sufficiency in the world and I'm thankful for it. Maybe you have to have been raised here to really understand it.
 

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Like I said, that I don't understand.

I sleep without a gun in my bedside-table.
If someone would break in at my house, he would be gone in 10 seconds. 2 seconds to realize that he just woke the dogs and 8 seconds to start running. My dogs are 2 lovely creatures, a sign with a warning saying something like "beware of the ferocious dogs" would be a joke.

If I didn't had my dogs I still would have my gun in my safe. They can steal everything from me, rob my car, take my TV, I could care less, I would only put up a fist-fight but my gun will stay where it is, under lock and key. I know that a robbery is not worth taking a men's life, period. In Holland we have cops to deal with those kinds of people, going for my gun will get me in more trouble then the suspect, even (or espescially) if I shoot him.
 

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They can steal everything from me, rob my car, take my TV, I could care less, I would only put up a fist-fight but my gun will stay where it is, under lock and key. I know that a robbery is not worth taking a men's life, period.

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Wow. No offense intended, but that point of view is completely alien to me. This must be what you call a cultural difference. I think that it's about 180 degrees from a lot of people here in the States. As for me, I could care less about the life of a criminal, especially the violent type; robbers, rapists, carjackers, etc. I'd just as soon they were all dead.

We had a situation here in Cobb County near my home where a scumbag carjacked a young mother while she was pumping gas. He took off at high speed and eventually crashed the carjacked van into a cement truck killing the woman while he was unhurt (go figure). A citizen who had seen him carjack her had followed him and when the carjacker jumped out of the car and started to take off (undoubtedly to steal another car) the citizen yelled for the guy to stop. The carjacker turned around and had a gun so the good citizen shot him dead right there in the street. Bastard got what he deserved. No charges were filed against the citizen, the police said that he did the community a favor.
 
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