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Changed barrel and cylinder on 1st gen. SAA

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I have a SAA made in 1906.My letter says the gun is blue and the caliber is .38-.40. The blue is worn off and it was changed to .45 colt.I spoke to the historian and she said the caliber was changed.It left the factory as a .38-.40.My question is-should I look for a barrel and and cylinder and change it back to the original or just be happy with a first generation frame.
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What likely prompted the change was the impact of the Western on both the Silver Screen and on TV.

Untold numbers of SAAs were refitted to .45 by their owners, because that round was readily available, and so were factory replacement cylinders and barrels.

If it's clean and in nice shape - you can hope to find a .38-40 barrel and cylinder commensurate with frame condition, and have them fitted.

Or not.
You can try to find the appropriate barrel and cylinder, but remember, you'll have to find them in the same condition as the rest of your gun, or it won't look right, and then you might be tempted to re-finish, which means pumping money into a gun that might not be worth what you have into it. Also, it won't be original anyway, even with the correct caliber.

If the caliber change was done by Colt, then I'd definitely leave it as is.

Edit: I'll take a .45 any day of the week over a .38-40....
I have a SAA made in 1906.My letter says the gun is blue and the caliber is .38-.40. The blue is worn off and it was changed to .45 colt.I spoke to the historian and she said the caliber was changed.It left the factory as a .38-.40.My question is-should I look for a barrel and and cylinder and change it back to the original or just be happy with a first generation frame.
It depends if you want it original in a harder caliber to get ammo for, or in an easier caliber to shoot but not original. My 1911 vintage gun is now a .45 converted by Colt in 1969 (the rework conversion invoice came with it) but was a originally a .32-20. I'll just keep mine this way. And if it wasn't converted I wouldn't have been able to afford it. If your gun factory lettered to an interesting buyer then converting it back would be a good thing. Mine is an obvious rebarrel because of the finish contracts and the newer shiny hammer. It's on the bottom here.
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How would I know the change was made by Colt?
The round trigger guard on the 1st Gens looks great IMO. Very graceful.
How would I know the change was made by Colt?
There will be some numbers stamped on the grip frame under the grips and/or an ampersand or star on the right rear trigger guard flat. The pictured numbers indicate that Colt did some work on this gun in September of 1933.

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Thanks to the 'sport' of Cowboy Action Shooting, many of the old, original calibers have been resurrected and are loaded today - finding ammunition and brass isn't much of a problem.
It will never be original again. May as well enjoy it as is.
I have had more than one letter come for a gun and had wrong information. Latest one was a 4 3/4" 38/40 Bisley that the letter noted it as a 7 1/2" 32/20 shipped to Browning Bros. I knew the gun was un-touched. A call back to Joe who gladly looked it up again, discovered it was in fact a 4 3/4" 38/40 and a Territory shipped gun to boot. Accidents can happen….
There will be some numbers stamped on the grip frame under the grips and/or an ampersand or star on the right rear trigger guard flat. The pictured numbers indicate that Colt did some work on this gun in September of 1933.

I have never heard of this being a Month/Year code before. I have seen multiple examples where that doesn't quite work. One that is referenced in print is serial 342,478. It has a work/refinish number of 1004. It is a 1920-21 gun and I know it was not refinished in Oct. 2004?
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It would be very hard to match it to the original configuration, and expensive to boot
Finding the correct period bbl (BTW, did Colt tell you which length bbl?) and cylinder, with the correct finish will be difficult and expensive. Then to have them fit to the gun will also cost some coin. I know that Dave Lanara, and probably some of the other SAA restorers can produce a new bbl, and cylinder to match the finish of you gun, but again a pricey proposition. Either way you're probably looking at at least $1,500.00, which doesn't make a lot of financial sense for a non-original gun which is likely not worth a whole lot more than that.

If it was me, I'd leave it alone, shoot it and enjoy it as is. It's a mutt, but sometimes those are the most fun.

Best regards,
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