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Colt 1911, dated 1915. Need some feedback please.

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I have the chance to pick up a Colt 1911, dated 1915 in a trade. I was told by the current owner it has original slide and frame, re arsenaled at Augusta Arsenal back in 1950, numbers match (??).From what I can tell from coolgunsite.com this 1911 looks legit but don't know enough about them to be 100% sure. See attached pics.

http://www.coolgunsite.com/pistols/Frame and Slide Markings.htm.

I am trying to determine what todays market value would be on this 1911 and is it worth the stretch. Would love some education on this or any advice would be great as well. Thx!!

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If I am reading the serial number correct No. 111810 the slide is from an earlier gun, that serial number should have the 1913 line as the last patent date not 1911, wrong grips for original but ok for the rework. Can't make out any markings on the barrel or magazine. Don't know what the seller is asking or where you are located , in south east Texas that is a $600 to $800 dollar shooter on a good day. Hope that helps.
Just heard from the original owner the serial# is 111610. Not sure if this is a credible source but the below link shows this serial number should have been manufactured in late 1915 in a group of 3496 units. Doesn't say what/who it was manufactured for. I know the gun has been parked and I am a huge fan of the 1911 platform. Just trying to determine the $ value and if it is worth the traded for a very rare AK plus cash. Thx again!

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Sorry meant to say "CURRENT" owner. The original owner would most likely be 100+ years old. LOL!!
It was shipped to the U. S. Armory at Springfield 12 April 1915 part of 2495 shipped that date. That is according to Goddard's book which I find more accurate than Proof House on early Colt autos.
It was shipped to the U. S. Armory at Springfield 12 April 1915 part of 2495 shipped that date. That is according to Goddard's book which I find more accurate than Proof House on early Colt autos.
Interesting. Any idea what the market value would be?
Interesting. Any idea what the market value would be?

Slide is from a different, earlier Pistol.

Slide Release is vastly later.

Trigger is later.

Hammer is later era.

Likely other small parts are also.

Barrel, who knows? But, probably much later.

Hence, yes, it is an interesting circa 1915 Frame, with a bunch of later parts, and, an earlier ( one less patent date than it should have if circa 1915 ) Slide, all of which are Parkerized, presumably from an AA re-arsenal.

This will not have as high of value as would an intact, all-original-parts Pistol even in very low remaining original ( Blue ) finish, or, as one would which had been re-Arsenal re-finish with Parkerizing only, while remaining intact as for it's original parts being retained.


Might be a good shooter.


As Mike Faires relays above, six to eight-ish is probably a realistic value among the more informed and familiar. Might do better on Gunbroker of course, which is not really your question though, since you are looking to buy it maybe, rather than sell it.

Arsenal re-works sometimes did tend to mix parts, and or to install new Parts where-ever the old one's failed to meet spec.

Magazine and Stocks are of course from a much later era.

It looks pretty good, looks smooth, no pits or mars under the Parkerizing.
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Just heard from the original owner the serial# is 111610. Not sure if this is a credible source but the below link shows this serial number should have been manufactured in late 1915 in a group of 3496 units. Doesn't say what/who it was manufactured for. I know the gun has been parked and I am a huge fan of the 1911 platform. Just trying to determine the $ value and if it is worth the traded for a very rare AK plus cash. Thx again!

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I've been collecting AKs for about 20 years. Would you mind telling me what your rare AK is?
Thanks.
Actually, the barrel that is in the gun is correct for the serial number. Of course, when these went through the arsenals, they had no cares about keeping original components with the gun. If I recall correctly, the "AA" should be through the finish. Assuming it is, this could very well be a nice conditioned Augusta Arsenal refinished pistol, and would be worth a bit more than suggested earlier IMHO. Maybe 1000 to 1200. Johnny or Scott may be along with more / better information shortly...
Pretty well agree with most everything that has been said. Being an Augusta Arsenal rebuild with a phosphate finish it really doesn't matter that some of the parts aren't of the correct era. As Rob mentioned there was no effort to keep the original parts together when a pistol was torn down for rebuild. What was worn or broke or didn't meet spec was discarded, and whatever parts that were on hand were used during the rebuild. It is very common for some collectors to seek out parts that would have been original to the pistol, but this is simply taking a pistol that is correct as a rebuild and making it an incorrect rebuild. By chance the barrel selected during the rebuild may have been the correct type, or someone trying to "restore" it may have installed that barrel.

If the AA stamp is not finished over the pistol could sell in the $1000 range.
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