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Typical AEF Officer's accoutrement set - M1916 holster, hanger, magazine pouch Sam Browne belt.

The magazine pouch looks to be black - with a 'Lift-The-Dot' fastener from an Vietnam-era MP - a much later addition.

That'll lower the value.
 

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The holster is a US Model 1916 type with a Sam Brown belt and shoulder strap.

Almost always, US issue holsters, belts, and pouches had the makers name and date stamped on them.
Since none of these do, I'd suspect that this is a modern replica set, except that it's a Sam Brown type belt and shoulder strap which is not widely made as replicas.

A key feature might be the wire belt hanger. WWII holsters used steel hangers, earlier holsters used brass.
However, many modern replicas use both. El Paso Saddlery use brass, Pacific Canvas & Leather use steel.

A number of makers sell high quality replicas, some with the WWII brown color.
Without any markings it's going to be about impossible to ID who made it and when, but the lack of markings probably indicates a modern replica.
However, the signs of use may indicate it's an original issue set, but again, the lack of markings is suspect.

One factor that might explain it is that in the pre-WWII era a number of officers had holsters and belts custom made of better materials and workmanship then USGI issue gear.
Some of these that are known to be custom made have no makers stamps.
 

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I have a rig that also has an unmarked leather holder for the first aid packet. Having the first aid packet it has two belt slides which are from Jeffersonville Quartermaster Depot and dated 1922. The leather magazine pocket, which has the single Lift-the Dot type fastener, is also from J.Q.M.D. and dated 1922.

Officers were suppose to furnish their own gear, but probably scrounged what they could find.
 

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I have a black holster with “Sears” on the back and I believe a date but can’t recall. I think metal straps. Total knockoff? Picked it up at a flea market. U.S. on front and looks for one not informed as you all like a real one but my feeling is it’s not..
 

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During the Vietnam war a lot of WWII vintage Model 1916 holsters were dyed black. Shortly after the Vietnam I saw a large box of previously unissued Craighead holsters that came out of Red River Army Depot that had been dyed black and still remained unissued. The Crighead is one of the harder to find Model 1916 holsters, and these escaped several wars without being issued.

Forgot to add, but not uncommon to see that holster advertised as a Sears & Roebuck holster, but it was Sears Saddlery Co.
 

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thanks for all the great info. I have no collector interest and would like to sell in the future, any thought on what I should ask? As I think back it came with a well used 1918 colt 1911.
 

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I have a black holster with “Sears” on the back and I believe a date but can’t recall. I think metal straps. Total knockoff? Picked it up at a flea market. U.S. on front and looks for one not informed as you all like a real one but my feeling is it’s not..
Sears Saddlery was a WWII USGI issue Model 1916 holster maker, so it's probably legit.
Some of the replica holster makers are stamping original makers names on holsters so it's Buyer Beware.
 

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thanks for all the great info. I have no collector interest and would like to sell in the future, any thought on what I should ask? As I think back it came with a well used 1918 colt 1911.
You'll get the best price by selling the set in an online auction site like Ebay or Gunbroker.com.
That way the market will decide the actual value.
Another option is to get on one of the militaria sites and ask the experts what it's worth.
 

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I do use GB, but I like to know ball park prices. Sometimes prices are good and other times not
 

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It's a period rig.

The WWI Sam Brownes had the round 'wire' buckle - later post-war ones had more of a 'wide frame' type buckle, as seen on police Sam Brownes.

The Army directed that black wood be the 'color of choice' for leather in 1956 - after that, boots, holsters and other leather items were dyed - often at Unit level - and many holsters were only dyed on the front part that was visible, with the regular leather being left clean, so as not to stain the uniform.

Oddly enough, leather slings were not dyed, and crates of untouched WWII holsters and boots could be found for years - a testament to American manufacturing during the war.
 

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You'll get the best price by selling the set in an online auction site like Ebay or Gunbroker.com.
That way the market will decide the actual value.
Another option is to get on one of the militaria sites and ask the experts what it's worth.
I expect the important learning the forum has given you, is that it is plausibly period to the pistol itself: construction, condition. So sell it as such. Certainly it is neither modern nor a replica. It would take a hyper-specialist on the M1916 to advise on the significance of it being unmarked; my own expertise is of quite a high level for commercial holster brands but not high enough on the M1916 itself to say more than I have :).

Value: sites like eBay can give the stuff away, when within a major antique auction site they can fetch crazy high prices. I would look through Julia's closed auctions to work out the high side of value of any gun or holster, and on eBay for the low side. Both have closed auction prices so that you can work out what prices these things fetch, vs. what folks ask for them. To date my favourite example is a $200 Brill on eBay that can fetch $2,000 on Julia.
 

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It will take more digging to find the sears. I looked quick but couldn’t find it but it’s around unless I gave it away. I did however find a brown one by Hoyt and a 44. I sent pics to a member. If it’s ligit and he wants to post it he is welcome. Forgot I even had that one.
 

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I do use GB, but I like to know ball park prices. Sometimes prices are good and other times not
I'd recommend eBay, and I have nothing against Gun Broker. when I started listing my accumulation of stuff I could not list the gun parts on eBay, and on GB there seemed to be little bidding. Then eBay lifted their ban on most gun parts I started to make out pretty good, sometimes really good. Most of what I sold was reloading dies, molds, etc., but I had quite a few gun parts.

Ebay is strange, some items the bidding takes off, and sometimes it doesn't. You can look on eBay and see what similar items might be listed and or selling for. A Colt Officer's ACP slide "El Capitan" .38 Super sold for over $1,000.
 
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