Colt Walker Found.

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Paul Wronsley

Discussion Starter · Jun 5, 2022

Hello All,
I found what appears to be a Walker Colt in a presentation case with all of the extras in it. At face value it seems to be the real thing and it is rather well used and worn. The presentation case has a brass plate with a name engraved on it but it is well polished and almost unreadable. I have a few concerns: for such a "worn" revolver there is absolutely no play on the mechanisms and all it tight, smooth and firm...possible but unlikely. My biggest concern is the serial number (that matches on all of the parts): 317. This is not the number for a Walker series but an Army revolver. This one is definitely a Walker. How can I make sure it is a genuine Walker and not a copy or reproduction that has been made to look old?

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WVCOLT

· #21 · Jun 5, 2022

Here are a few of my reproductions.

Air gun Trigger Revolver Gun barrel Wood

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seabobro46

· #22 · Jun 5, 2022

ignats said:
"He wants about $7500 for it which also seems odd. " That is way beneath the price for a genuine Walker Colt. I'd require an expert opinion before I bought it.

there is a slight possibility that the revolver could be the last unknown paterson famco prototypes uncle eller allowed saml. to have made there and the number may have some meaning to colt (like 4-12-44 the first time texas was mentioned in congress) been added for whatever reason.

7 paterson "collins" prototypes were supposed to be fabricated, 6 are known. the missin one would have had the LONDON address on the barrel.

jim

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seabobro46

· #23 · Jun 5, 2022

WVCOLT said:
Here are a few of my reproductions.

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hi, excellent! you keep them well.
i will hope you find the last collins or one of the 1847's robin was searching for.

jim

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Paul Wronsley

Discussion Starter · #24 · Jun 5, 2022

seabobro46 said:
there is a slight possibility that the revolver could be the last unknown paterson famco prototypes uncle eller allowed saml. to have made there and the number may have some meaning to colt (like 4-12-44 the first time texas was mentioned in congress) been added for whatever reason.

7 paterson "collins" prototypes were supposed to be fabricated, 6 are known. the missin one would have had the LONDON address on the barrel.

jim

I will find out nut the serial number still seems wrong: 317??

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WVCOLT

· #25 · Jun 5, 2022

seabobro46 said:
there is a slight possibility that the revolver could be the last unknown paterson famco prototypes uncle eller allowed saml. to have made there and the number may have some meaning to colt (like 4-12-44 the first time texas was mentioned in congress) been added for whatever reason.

7 paterson "collins" prototypes were supposed to be fabricated, 6 are known. the missin one would have had the LONDON address on the barrel.

jim

seabobro46 said:
there is a slight possibility that the revolver could be the last unknown paterson famco prototypes uncle eller allowed saml. to have made there and the number may have some meaning to colt (like 4-12-44 the first time texas was mentioned in congress) been added for whatever reason.

7 paterson "collins" prototypes were supposed to be fabricated, 6 are known. the missin one would have had the LONDON address on the barrel.

jim

seabobro46 said:
hi, excellent! you keep them well.

jim

TY Sir. 😁

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WVCOLT

· #26 · Jun 5, 2022

Paul Wronsley said:
I will find out nut the serial number still seems wrong: 317??

Very much looking forward to the results. 🤞🤞

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WVCOLT

· #27 · Jun 5, 2022

seabobro46 said:
there is a slight possibility that the revolver could be the last unknown paterson famco prototypes uncle eller allowed saml. to have made there and the number may have some meaning to colt (like 4-12-44 the first time texas was mentioned in congress) been added for whatever reason.

7 paterson "collins" prototypes were supposed to be fabricated, 6 are known. the missin one would have had the LONDON address on the barrel.

jim

Great history lesson Jim. Very much appreciate all of your input. 👍👍

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seabobro46

· #28 · Jun 5, 2022

Paul Wronsley said:
I will find out nut the serial number still seems wrong: 317??

saml. colt was a numerologist. the number could mean somethin to him. i can not find much information on dr, coult of new york, london and bombay.
regards, bro

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seabobro46

· #29 · Jun 5, 2022

WVCOLT said:
Great history lesson Jim. Very much appreciate all of your input. 👍👍

thaks again terry, i have been studying the 1847's, the second contracts and the seven collins since 1995 at the same time researching the meaning of the single number stamped on the butt caps of f e thomas bamboo fly rods.

jim

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GRI

· #30 · Jun 5, 2022

Wow! All this thread about something that we do not know exists, let alone if it is what they think it is.

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SHOOTER13

· #31 · Jun 5, 2022

Welcome to the COLT Forum from the Cradle Of Liberty...Pennsylvania !!

Enjoy Our Community Sir... and I hope your new found "Walker" turns out to be authentic.

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GRI

· #32 · Jun 5, 2022

I am going to suggest that a permanent thread be created: “So you think you have found an original Colt Walker or Paterson.”

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Rick

· #33 · Jun 5, 2022

If it's priced under 250K be careful.
Ask the seller if it's original or repro aged back. If he says IDK, ask where he got it. Provenance is EVERYTHING with these.

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seabobro46

· #34 · Jun 5, 2022

SHOOTER13 said:
Welcome to the COLT Forum from the Cradle Of Liberty...Pennsylvania !!

Enjoy Our Community Sir... and I hope your new found "Walker" turns out to be authentic.

.
hello shooter; that would be great, perhaps one we could measure against the numerous fakes which abound.

regards, bro

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SHOOTER13

· #35 · Jun 5, 2022

seabobro46 said:
hello shooter; that would be great, perhaps one we could measure against the numerous fakes which abound.
regards, bro

Copy That Bro...!!

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SHOOTER13

· #36 · Jun 5, 2022

WVCOLT said:
Here are a few of my reproductions.

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Some Mighty Fine Lookin' Reproductions Terry...!!

What manufacturer !?

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Paul Wronsley

Discussion Starter · #37 · Jun 5, 2022

Rick said:
If it's priced under 250K be careful.
Ask the seller if it's original or repro aged back. If he says IDK, ask where he got it. Provenance is EVERYTHING with these.

Unfortunately he has no provenance or anything on the item, very sad.

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WVCOLT

· #38 · Jun 5, 2022

SHOOTER13 said:
Some Mighty Fine Lookin' Reproductions Terry...!!

What manufacturer !?

Thank you very much brother. 😉

1980 2nd Gen. Colt 1847 Walker SN: 4053
1979 Armi San Marco 1851 3rd Model Dragoon SN: DAC 236

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WVCOLT

· #39 · Jun 5, 2022

seabobro46 said:
thaks again terry, i have been studying the 1847's, the second contracts and the seven collins since 1995 at the same time researching the meaning of the single number stamped on the butt caps of f e thomas bamboo fly rods.

jim

You are quite welcome. 😁

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SHOOTER13

· #40 · Jun 5, 2022

WVCOLT said:
Thank you very much brother. 😉
1980 2nd Gen. Colt 1847 Walker SN: 4053
1979 Armi San Marco 1851 3rd Model Dragoon SN: DAC 236

Well, both are beauties my Friend...but I'll admit that the Walker is my overall favorite, a BFR in my favorite caliber has got me to a thinkin'...and we both know that's dangerous !!

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