Mine's up for sale for $7000!!!! 😁 No documentation but I"m sure it's real!
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Colt Walker Found.
Hello All,
I found what appears to be a Walker Colt in a presentation case with all of the extras in it. At face value it seems to be the real thing and it is rather well used and worn. The presentation case has a brass plate with a name engraved on it but it is well polished and almost unreadable. I have a few concerns: for such a "worn" revolver there is absolutely no play on the mechanisms and all it tight, smooth and firm...possible but unlikely. My biggest concern is the serial number (that matches on all of the parts): 317. This is not the number for a Walker series but an Army revolver. This one is definitely a Walker. How can I make sure it is a genuine Walker and not a copy or reproduction that has been made to look old?
I found what appears to be a Walker Colt in a presentation case with all of the extras in it. At face value it seems to be the real thing and it is rather well used and worn. The presentation case has a brass plate with a name engraved on it but it is well polished and almost unreadable. I have a few concerns: for such a "worn" revolver there is absolutely no play on the mechanisms and all it tight, smooth and firm...possible but unlikely. My biggest concern is the serial number (that matches on all of the parts): 317. This is not the number for a Walker series but an Army revolver. This one is definitely a Walker. How can I make sure it is a genuine Walker and not a copy or reproduction that has been made to look old?
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Not worth a Penny more than $5,000.00.Mine's up for sale for $7000!!!! 😁 No documentation but I"m sure it's real!
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hello; scene too worn on the cylinder to view, makes it worth $450.00 usdNot worth a Penny more than $5,000.00.
regards, bro
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No way unless you have the original box.
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No way unless you have the original box.
Hello All, the owner never contacted me on Saturday as arranged for the viewing. He is a collector/dealer and was pretty vague when I last spoke with him but I will try to get another appointment to view and hopefully take the revolver apart and take some detailed pics. The more I look into this the more I have me doubts that it is the real deal. Then again I am not a fundi on this matter but there is still a slim chance that there may be something in it.
I wouldn’t waste my time on this one. It isn’t authentic.
A “ collector/dealer” who doesn’t know the real value of a Walker? Not likely, but fingers crossed 🤞 for you. Regards.Hello All, the owner never contacted me on Saturday as arranged for the viewing. He is a collector/dealer and was pretty vague when I last spoke with him but I will try to get another appointment to view and hopefully take the revolver apart and take some detailed pics. The more I look into this the more I have me doubts that it is the real deal. Then again I am not a fundi on this matter but there is still a slim chance that there may be something in it.
I really do kind of hope it is the real deal...but a "dealer/collector" being vague about what he claims to have sounds like he doesn't want people to dig too deep into his claim.
hello, paul; i am still of the opinion there is a connection to the colt's patent arms manufacturing company in paterson, new jersey. i would like to see a spectrometer analysis of the dragoon. it may also be a brevette or of unauthorized period making.Hello All, the owner never contacted me on Saturday as arranged for the viewing. He is a collector/dealer and was pretty vague when I last spoke with him but I will try to get another appointment to view and hopefully take the revolver apart and take some detailed pics. The more I look into this the more I have me doubts that it is the real deal. Then again I am not a fundi on this matter but there is still a slim chance that there may be something in it.
regards, bro
Buying something this rare is tricky. I'm going to defer to the experts, most of who say it's fake. If there is a slight chance it's real (prototype), it would still be just as hard to convince people if you own it as it is now. The guy probably decided you were wasting his time and wants to wait for a more desperate buyer. Whether he knows it's fake, or has had similar problems verifying it's real.
I know it's a lot of money and you have to be very sure....but I don't think you can be without letting an expert handle it our doing forensics on the metal. If you keep bothering the guy and try to do that, he's going to get frustrated and go away. So it's a lottery ticket. If you decide you have the money to gamble, tell the guy you are concerned with it being real (he may pack up and leave at that point), but you would offer him $xxxx. Likely response will be, "yeah, that's why it's priced $7500 instead of $1 Million..." But if he accepts then you can spend a few months or a year figuring it out. If it's indeed fake, you can keep it for a learning experience, or give it to a museum (telling them it's a fake). If real, you can sell it and retire.
I know it's a lot of money and you have to be very sure....but I don't think you can be without letting an expert handle it our doing forensics on the metal. If you keep bothering the guy and try to do that, he's going to get frustrated and go away. So it's a lottery ticket. If you decide you have the money to gamble, tell the guy you are concerned with it being real (he may pack up and leave at that point), but you would offer him $xxxx. Likely response will be, "yeah, that's why it's priced $7500 instead of $1 Million..." But if he accepts then you can spend a few months or a year figuring it out. If it's indeed fake, you can keep it for a learning experience, or give it to a museum (telling them it's a fake). If real, you can sell it and retire.
Also, compare the barrel addresses of the OPs revolver and the Danish Sea Captain Colt. The font of the Danish Sea Captain Colt Walker, looking at “NEW - YORK CITY”, is blockier, and NEW and YORK are closer together with a much shorter dash than present on the OPs Colt Walker.
I think, unfortunately, the evidence is suggesting the OPs Colt Walker is not genuine.
What makes you think this Colt Walker is authentic at all? I quoted again a section where there is obvious proof the barrel address has been faked.I really do kind of hope it is the real deal...but a "dealer/collector" being vague about what he claims to have sounds like he doesn't want people to dig too deep into his claim.
hello, the barrel and/or barrel roll may be not original to the lock frame and/or the cylinder. colt used that probably non-whitnweyville cut out for capping on other prototypes. he made many, many prototypes at paterson. this one may be one, it looks an awful lot alike paterson prototypes, as tweety bird said about himself and larry birdWhat makes you think this Colt Walker is authentic at all? I quoted again a section where there is obvious proof the barrel address has been faked.
I never said I thought it was (is) authentic. I said "I really do kind of hope it is the real deal..."What makes you think this Colt Walker is authentic at all? I quoted again a section where there is obvious proof the barrel address has been faked.
I have no dog in this fight but it would just be cool if a previously unknown Walker showed up on the scene.
hello, markI never said I thought it was (is) authentic. I said "I really do kind of hope it is the real deal..."
I have no dog in this fight but it would just be cool if a previously unknown Walker showed up on the scene.
especially if it is found and helped by the good folks here at the forum.
regards, jim
Indeed. It’s an aged up copy with an Italian repro flask all put into a repurposed antique silverware box.I wouldn’t waste my time on this one. It isn’t authentic.
The best I can do is $400 and I toss in 1000 once-fired Federal LP primers.
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ain't it the trrrrutth,ain't it the trrrutth???
addendum: most civil engineering companies have mass spectrometers and should be happy to test the dragoon. if pre bessemer process steel and iron, some prototypes have traded owners for five figures usd.
regards, bro
regards, bro
Another thing one can look at is the fancy ribbon-like borders surrounding the "MODEL USMR/COLT'S PATENT" on the cylinder. The repros do not get the cylinder scene exactly correct and the differences are most noticeable on those ribbon-like borders.
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