Colt walker

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Teddy767

Discussion Starter · 8 mo ago

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Well trying to find out if it’s authentic or not seems to have all the correct markings and the serial number comes back to it correctly but that can be faked. Thoughts ?

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Light Font Rectangle Gas Cylinder

Rectangle Font Gas Tints and shades Fixture

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MarkInTx

· #2 · 8 mo ago

Welcome to the Forum from (northern) South Texas!

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The experts will be along shortly...but the odds are that is an aged Italian repro that is missing the wedge screw.
Pictures of the serial number(s) and any/all other markings would be good.

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SHOOTER13

· #3 · 8 mo ago (Edited)

Welcome to the COLT Forum from the Cradle Of Liberty...Pennsylvania !!

Enjoy Our Community Sir... and I too will wait for what the experts here will opine.

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mrcvs

· #4 · 8 mo ago

I can give you a multitude of reasons why yours is not original, but the easiest thing to begin with is the barrel address. The ones with the heavy dash between “NEW” and “YORK” are 100% fakes. Note the dash on the barrel of this 100% authentic Danish Sea Captain Colt Walker:

Cased Colt Model Colt Civilian Walker Revolver | Rock Island Auction

Extremely Well-Documented, Historic and Iconic Only Known Original Cased Colt Civilian Walker Percussion Revolver, Known as "The Danish Sea Captain Walker"Offered here is without question the rarest, most historic and finest Colt Walker revolver Rock Island Auction Company has had the privilege...

www.rockislandauction.com

The photograph of the barrel address is in the first column, third row.

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Teddy767

Discussion Starter · #5 · 8 mo ago

MarkInTx said:
Welcome to the Forum from (northern) South Texas!
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The experts will be along shortly...but the odds are that is an aged Italian repro that is missing the wedge screw.
Pictures of the serial number(s) and any/all other markings would be good.

1902 is the serial Italian repo was ruled out by a couple locals

ignats

· #6 · 8 mo ago

The barrel retaining wedge is in backwards. The revolver is in excellent condition and that leads me to believe it is an Italian replica.

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MarkInTx

· #7 · 8 mo ago

Teddy767 said:
1902 is the serial Italian repo was ruled out by a couple locals

There were only 1,100 Walkers original manufactured. Serial number 1902 shows as a 1st Model Dragoon.
Colt Walkers are some of the most faked Colts around.

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mrcvs

· #8 · 8 mo ago

Okay here’s a few more differences:

curvature of grip interface at backstrap, frame, and trigger guard differs from original.

Location of wedge not in exactly same location as original.

Cylinder stop differs from original.

Curvature of arc of loading lever and profile of loading lever differs from original.

Loading lever cutout profile differs from original.

Angulation and chamfer of rear part of barrel assembly forward of frame differs from original.

If scene on cylinder was distinct, I’m sure I could point out many ways in which it differs from the cylinder scene of the Danish Sea Captain Colt Walker.

Is further proof necessary?

How much do you have invested in your revolver?

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mrcvs

· #9 · 8 mo ago

ignats said:
The barrel retaining wedge is in backwards. The revolver is in excellent condition and that leads me to believe it is an Italian replica.

Bingo!

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stavok

· #10 · 8 mo ago

Welcome to the forum. You've come to the right place to learn.

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stavok

· #11 · 8 mo ago

Teddy767 said:
1902 is the serial Italian repo was ruled out by a couple locals

and these locals have what knowledge and financial interest? What kind of money are we talking about here? Greed tends to distort peoples vision. First glance at the condition rules out genuine.

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ignats

· #12 · 8 mo ago

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This is the right side marking on my replica Walker. The stamp and fonts are identical to the OP's

Wood Font Gas Metal Auto part

The auction revolver quite a difference.

Grey Font Gas Tints and shades Rectangle

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ignats

· #13 · 8 mo ago

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My replica does not have an address on the top of the barrel. The Italian proof marks have been peened over by the previous owner which I believe some re-enactors call "defarbing".

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dallascowboy

· #14 · 8 mo ago

ASM (Italian maker Army San Marco) has made Walker models with a Colt barrel address and got sued for it from Colt. This one looks like one of the ASM with the Colt address. No Italian Maker actually has a Colt address on the barrel.
A lot was already said but think about it, a 175 year old gun without any traces of wear at the cylinder stops. Do you think that this is possible?

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dallascowboy

· #15 · 8 mo ago

@Teddy767, I hope that you didn't put to much money in it, this is obviously a fake. Here in Germany this Walker would bring somewhere around 300.00 €. No idea what is a realistic value in US.

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ignats

· #16 · 8 mo ago

dallascowboy said:
@Teddy767, I hope that you didn't put to much money in it, this is obviously a fake. Here in Germany this Walker would bring somewhere around 300.00 €. No idea what is a realistic value in US.

You could buy a nice Uberti replica for around $400 USD. Cased Walker for sale

Barnicles

· #17 · 8 mo ago

Welcome to the forum, it is a beautiful piece regardless.

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Teddy767

Discussion Starter · #18 · 8 mo ago

Teddy767 said:
1902 is the serial Italian repo was ruled out by a couple locals

Was found inside a wall in a home from 1744 and was there since god knows how long
A friend happened to drop it in a sonic cleaner for a minute

Teddy767

Discussion Starter · #19 · 8 mo ago

Barnicles said:
Welcome to the forum, it is a beautiful piece regardless.

Thank you very very much !

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Teddy767

Discussion Starter · #20 · 8 mo ago

mrcvs said:
Okay here’s a few more differences:

curvature of grip interface at backstrap, frame, and trigger guard differs from original.

Location of wedge not in exactly same location as original.

Cylinder stop differs from original.

Curvature of arc of loading lever and profile of loading lever differs from original.

Loading lever cutout profile differs from original.

Angulation and chamfer of rear part of barrel assembly forward of frame differs from original.

If scene on cylinder was distinct, I’m sure I could point out many ways in which it differs from the cylinder scene of the Danish Sea Captain Colt Walker.

Is further proof necessary?

How much do you have invested in your revolver?

Would love some other pics to compare it to as well and zero it was free

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