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Hey guys need a little help with these grips. Real or fake custom shop? Sorry For the bad pic

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It's hard to say for sure. Most likely yes, they are custom shop grips. Probably a more recent pair and made from exotic wood by an overseas supplier. I base that on the wood grain and finish plus the use of the custom shop medallions that are in it. Those medallions are not readily available outside of the CS.

DFW would be able to confirm or rebut this, let's hope he comes by this.
Doubt they are CS. The brass screw and hardware is mostly seen on the Asian repo's. Those would be gen IIs in design, and brass doesn't fit into that time frame, and the CS medallions sure we're not used.
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Wrong shape for the checkered pattern ...its a reproduction. A Bad One.

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The grips look real to me but I would need more pics of the inside and the outside to be 100% positive. I have seen grips like these and have owned them. Colt did have Eagle grips make grips for them for many years. The custom shop disc is correct and the brass hardware is also correct. My uncle specialized in Custom Shop items from 1973-2008. He had many grips come through the shop since he was a warranty shop and always dealt with them. You can look up the colt Python guns that were special run like the Bicentennial set or the St. Paul and the Minneapolis Police special edition guns which are on gunbroker right now and I have seen them with Ivory discs and scrimshaw and own quite a few. They are not a new purchase they are from the early 1990's and older since I purchased them then and had already been in the shop prior to that date. I have seen many types of exotic materials such as Ebony, Rosewood and others. If you go to the Python pics you may even see a few pics of my guns with them on there. I even sold a set to a member here which was made of black ebony wood and had an Ivory disc that was ready for scrimshaw work.
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here is one with the CS disc. So is it real It looks it from my view but I will need more pics to be 100%.
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KMK show me a picture of a set of stocks with a generation II checkering and custom shop medallions. All the examples you are showing are smooth, which would denote no time frame for production date of the gun they were on. Looks to me like a mismatch made in Asia. The Colt Custom Shop was established on or about 1976, if these stocks were produced they would have been a retro production request. If so, what guns were they to be used on? If they were used by the CS, they could have been let over from 1974 production runs, and still the question is, what guns were they sold with? xb
My first impression is that the stocks are of Asian origin. Checkering and color seem off to my eyes. There is a plethora of reproduction medallions and stocks; some fairly decent, some pretty bad.
I personally don't have a checkered example to show you. I will need to check with my uncle to see if he still has the one I saw on one of his guns. I am not sure of the checkering pattern but I remember it was checkered. I have to wait to visit him and take a few pics. Don't be to hung up on what is and what is not from Colt. Colt has made many things that you are not even aware. My uncle has a set of steel grips greyed and engraved with the stage coach hold up scene which was like the one on the pocket model made for a 1911 which was made special and is only one of 3 sets made and gifted to him from Colt. I will get a pic of that as well so don't think for a second that there isn't things out there that Colt made but not available for the public. My uncle was very good friends with a gentleman who was head of the Custom Shop at the time and when ever there was something new he would get a call and he would buy it. Eagle grips are made in India. specially the ones I showed in Pics. You are hung up on the guns they are on. They didn't come on those guns. They were purchased at different times. If you want time frame take a look at the examples I mentioned. I also stated when I purchased the grips and he had then prior to me getting them to place on newer guns. By the way the Guns I showed in pics are custom guns and are from different time periods.Most of his guns are from pre 1983.
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We can only base our opinions on what we know and have experienced. I am telling you mine. If you lived near me I would show you stuff that you probably never knew existed and are all from Colt. Colt had many things that were not made in house. They often contracted things out like they do today. Ivory grips, engraving etc. If you want to say they never placed grips like that on straight production guns then I will agree. Even the standard grips have variations there was a time in the late 1970's they were made of Cherri wood I had a set which I sold. They came off a gun I had and had sold the gun before they were out of production in the 1990's. It was an older python. If the set of grips shown above are true eagle grips and may be one of the early examples you have to remember when placing an order for something, one has to provide an example for them to follow a proto type if you will. If Colt gave them one of the early grips to follow as an example then that is the pattern they used. You have to remember who is making these grips in a 3rd world country they never seen a Colt let alone what grips came or styles. They give the guy the grip and say make this. I also stated earlier I would need to see the inside to be sure they were what I was saying they are. I didn't say they were 100%.
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This one example of the grips made from Eagle in the 80's. I will try and get a checkered pic in for you and get a pic of the steel grips Colt made for my uncle to show you as well. I will say this, if you are not sure of something I will always say don't buy it. Better to be safe than sorry. Just so everyone is aware that these grips were very expensive as well from the custom shop. They were not the $60 stock grips back when they were still making pythons and I'm talking about the late 80's - early 90's. they ran like $300 for the exotic grips such as Ebony etc.
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http://www.coltforum.com/forums/python/71041-puthon-custom-shop-target-stocks-2.html

Here is a custom shop pair of grips with third gen checkering and brass fittings made by an overseas supplier. Now the grips in question have the second gen checkering. Just go look at any of the bonded ivory grips that you could get in the custom shop. They come in all kinds of checkering or smooth. The second gen checkering for those matches the grips in question.

So are these truly CS grips? It is hard to say without more pictures to analyze. I think the key to answering the question might lie in the use of the CS medallions, which I'm not sure if it lends credibility or actually hurts credibility. Somebody with more knowledge on how they used the CS medallions would be able to answer this conundrum.

I think it's very possible they are legitimate. I don't believe them to have originally came on the gun though. I think they could be a special order from the '90s when Colt was doing business with Vintage.
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I just checked with my uncle and asked if he still had the checkered grips he stated he had sold them and the checkering was Not sharp like the regular production grips. I also was able to take photos of a set of grips gifted to him by colt for helping out with a project many years back. Now these grips are one of 3 sets made and he is a recipient of one. The other 2 unowned. One side is blued with the same engraving, the other is greyed and made of steel. You be the judge. The engraving is the same of the hold up scene which came on the pocket model black powder pistol.

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The only that that jumps out to me is that the grip screw head is on the wrong side.
I can't recall ever seeing a set of grips sold by Colt that didn't have the screw head on the left side.

The checkering seems to be pretty rough with grooves of varying depth, with the tops of the checkering rather flat, OR the grips are well worn.
Indian made grips often have this poor quality checkering, but you didn't see it much on genuine factory contracted grips.

Without better pictures, I don't think I could call it one way or another.
There are stuff out there that no expert will or can tell you it is colt or not. Other than the stock item that came from regular production line. Any Colt custom shop employees out there? Please jump in to clarify for all. If it isn't documented then it doesn't exist? That is not true. That is why it is the "CUSTOM SHOP" thanks to Col. Colt. Now I am not here to discredit anyone or embarrass anyone this isn't that kind of forum. I think we are grown people and are here to learn from one another. I am just trying to share my experience. I have learned a great deal from many people here. Hell, I didn't even know they made a stainless 3" python until keystone put a pick of his up or the California python. I have seen the combat and missed out on one but other than that I learned here. Food for thought. The problem is not everything is documented.
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Take a look at the pythons pictured of the commemoratives they have the screw on the other side as well.
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