Does this label look Kosher?
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While there is no way that a label could be Kosher, it does look original to me. It does not look newer than the box to me, and the red ink will not fade if not exposed to sunlight. Look at the wear and scuffing on the edges of the label. It would be hard to fake that. I do not believe that anyone has been reprinting and selling these early 1970s labels, so someone would have had to go to all that trouble for one label. Seems unlikely.
Obviously, everyone above disagrees with me so far, so act accordingly.
(Apologies to anyone offended by my "delivery.")
Obviously, everyone above disagrees with me so far, so act accordingly.
(Apologies to anyone offended by my "delivery.")
how do you account for the scuff marks on the brown box ending right at the yellow label without the label itself being scuffed,kind of seems suspect to me.that label was added on later to that box.
Now as for the box can't really tell without seeing more of it.
Now as for the box can't really tell without seeing more of it.
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Not saying it is... Not saying it isn't.. but the plot thickens..
Colt Combat Commander Colt MK IV and or Series 70 Your Choice 1 Label | eBay
I dont have any examples of an original label for that model. comparison is about the best way to tell for me when the possible fake is good.
However, I have one or two or more of New Frontier / Peacemaker 22 boxes .. and I have one with a fake label that the OP photo reminds me of.
I'd have to say, when its that close to real or that hard to tell if it is or is not, then the price would decide for me.. and most of all gun condition.
To me the fake labels on the new frontier/ peacemakers are thinner than the originals , but I just don't have one of the MK IV to be sure.
Colt Combat Commander Colt MK IV and or Series 70 Your Choice 1 Label | eBay
I dont have any examples of an original label for that model. comparison is about the best way to tell for me when the possible fake is good.
However, I have one or two or more of New Frontier / Peacemaker 22 boxes .. and I have one with a fake label that the OP photo reminds me of.
I'd have to say, when its that close to real or that hard to tell if it is or is not, then the price would decide for me.. and most of all gun condition.
To me the fake labels on the new frontier/ peacemakers are thinner than the originals , but I just don't have one of the MK IV to be sure.
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The Model Code for a Polished Nickel Government is 01971.
We have seen Colt scuff the area of the box where the label is affixed so that the label does not peal off. There have been other very informative threads regarding this practice.
I think the label is authentic, but I would like to compare it to a known original, which I do not have. I am searching for a photo.
We have seen Colt scuff the area of the box where the label is affixed so that the label does not peal off. There have been other very informative threads regarding this practice.
I think the label is authentic, but I would like to compare it to a known original, which I do not have. I am searching for a photo.
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Well, all of the labels I have been able to find for a Series 70 Government Model have 1970 (not 1971) in that Model Code box. Also with a pre-printed character Ø............like this Ø 1970.
Is the model code for blue Ø1970, and for nickel Ø1971 ?
I think I answered my own question. Here is an example on GunBroker of a Colt very similar to the one I'm looking at, and the Model shows as Ø 1970:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=358719368
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Igor, as I mentioned above, the model Code for Colt's polished nickel Government Model is 01971. Blue is 01970. You can see a "zero" prefix for the nickel and a character "Ø" prefix for the blue. I am guessing the person that filled in the model code on the subject label simply used "1971" and failed to include the prefix. This may have been a standard practice and is the reason I am searching for a comparable label. Someone must have one here?
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The eBay add says their labels are 100% original then that the labels are "peel and stick"..........did Colt use peel and stick labels back then and where would someone get 100% original blank Colt labels?
The first character for a Colt model number is a letter, NOT a number. The first character for a Model O model designation is the letter "O," not the numeral zero. As stated, the model designation for a polished nickel Government Model is O1971. If a Colt employee put a slash through a letter "O," that person was not trained to understand that the first character is a letter, NOT a numeral.
(Apologies to anyone offended by my "delivery.")
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Yes, I did and to me it is a label that has been altered to fit the pistol.
Here are the product codes from Colt's 1982 Price List (all of my other Price Lists show the same product codes):
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That is very interesting. Many of the Colt pre-printed labels have the character Ø pre-printed on the label.The info specific to the particular gun is hand-written, but the label is pre-printed. Like this one:
COLT Series/70 GOVERNMENT NICKLE 45 EXC IN BOX : Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com
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Probably because of it's simplicity, this type label was one of the very first to be counterfeited, quite a number of years ago, and have been around long enough to be "aged" without having to "age" it "artificially". In my humble opinion, at best, it is highly suspect.
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