Experience with colt custom shop?

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Python pony

Discussion Starter · 11 mo ago

I recently bought new colt python in stainless steel, however i really prefer blue finish…..and colt never offers one atm. So i was thinking maybe I should inquire to colt custom shop and let them do the bluing or blue coating on my python if possible, because i think i saw someone in this fourm has done bluing job with colt custom shop. Can anyone share me experiences with them?

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SnidelyWhiplash

· #2 · 11 mo ago

It wasn't blued...it was DLC...Diamond Like Coating. Whether the Custom Shop does it in-house or subs it out I don't know...but it looks stunning and is much more durable than traditional bluing.

I imagine you can find someone who does it as the Custom Shop is supposedly maxed out right now.

Python pony

Discussion Starter · #3 · 11 mo ago

one thing I don’t get about this post,

SnidelyWhiplash said:
It wasn't blued...it was DLC...Diamond Like Coating. Whether the Custom Shop does it in-house or subs it out I don't know...but it looks stunning and is much more durable than traditional bluing.

I imagine you can find someone who does it as the Custom Shop is supposedly maxed out right now.

I heard they are still developing dlc process, but my question is will they offer finish job for customers who already owns ss python or gotta order the entire gun that’s already customized?

Max_Power

· #4 · 11 mo ago

what I would like to know is why the CS cannot accept an old python simply for engraving purposes and a reblue and exclude any mechanical work. Colt offers the Royal Blue on the 1911 so why not other guns? I would like a nice BBQ gun similar to something like what Mike Dubber might do (see below) but with a colt letter. I bet there would be no shortage of customers and would be a lifetime full-employment bill for hand engravers!

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dfariswheel

· #5 · 11 mo ago

The reason Colt will not take in any work on older guns is because if during any work something turns up that's defective or unsafe, Colt no longer has any parts to repair it.
That would leave them subject to the legal problems of returning an unsafe gun and following lawsuits.
Even if the gun was in for just refinishing or engraving, Colt would still be liable for a defective gun.

Example.....Colt takes in an original Python for a refinish and after disassembly finds the hammer or trigger has been altered and is no longer safe. Colt has no new replacement parts and is now responsible for the gun.

Another....Colt disassembles the gun and for some reason something breaks. Colt can't repair it and the customer holds them responsible.

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dfariswheel

· #6 · 11 mo ago

Python pony said:
one thing I don’t get about this post,

I heard they are still developing dlc process, but my question is will they offer finish job for customers who already owns ss python or gotta order the entire gun that’s already customized?

As per your other post, just call Colt Customer Service and ask them if they offer aftermarket refinishing with the DLC process.

SHOOTER13

· #7 · 11 mo ago

Welcome to the COLT Forum from the Cradle Of Liberty...Pennsylvania !!

Enjoy Our Community Sir...

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Hopalong

· #8 · 11 mo ago

SnidelyWhiplash said:
It wasn't blued...it was DLC...Diamond Like Coating. Whether the Custom Shop does it in-house or subs it out I don't know...but it looks stunning and is much more durable than traditional bluing.

I imagine you can find someone who does it as the Custom Shop is supposedly maxed out right now.

A couple of months back, I contacted Colt about ordering a Python in black DLC just like the one posted on the forum. I was told they were still evaluating the process to determine if they would make the black DLC an available Python finish. I was told to check back with the Custom Shop after August.

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po18guy

· #9 · 11 mo ago

Python pony said:
I recently bought new colt python in stainless steel, however i really prefer blue finish…..and colt never offers one atm. So i was thinking maybe I should inquire to colt custom shop and let them do the bluing or blue coating on my python if possible, because i think i saw someone in this fourm has done bluing job with colt custom shop. Can anyone share me experiences with them?

Sell it. Buy a DLC version. Waaaaay too much hassle any other way.

Max_Power

· #10 · 11 mo ago (Edited)

dfariswheel said:
The reason Colt will not take in any work on older guns is because if during any work something turns up that's defective or unsafe, Colt no longer has any parts to repair it.
That would leave them subject to the legal problems of returning an unsafe gun and following lawsuits.
Even if the gun was in for just refinishing or engraving, Colt would still be liable for a defective gun.

Example.....Colt takes in an original Python for a refinish and after disassembly finds the hammer or trigger has been altered and is no longer safe. Colt has no new replacement parts and is now responsible for the gun.

Another....Colt disassembles the gun and for some reason something breaks. Colt can't repair it and the customer holds them responsible.

I believe that a properly worded disclaimer signed by the consumer and sent in with the gun would fix that. I did some preliminary research and cannot find a single reported case at the State or Federal level where a gunsmith or mfg was ever found liable for declining to work on an unsafe gun and returning it to the owner. I would be interested in the source of your statement

Hammers or triggers that have been altered can simply be retained by the mfg and not returned. The idiots at Browning did this to me. I sent in a gun for an evaluation of ringed barrels. Browning declined to do warranty work on the barrels but before sending the gun back to me, swapped out the adjustable triple trigger that came with the gun and installed an unadjustable trigger. It kept the original parts and returned the gun to me with the new trigger. Not only were they wrong because the gun came with the triple trigger in the first place, but they installed the new one incorrectly because the top barrel would no longer fire. I had to buy a new triple trigger and pay to have it installed. I also had to pay a local german gunsmith to fix the failure to fire problem. By the way, browning claimed the ringed barrels were unsafe but still returned them to me. The german gunsmith looked at the rings and was unsure if these made the gun safe or not but still returned the whole gun to me. I took the barrels to a master barrel maker in italy who took the rings out and the gun was as good as new.

People mistakenly believe that car mechanics can refuse to release your car back to you when it is unsafe to drive and you decline the work. False.

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dfariswheel

· #11 · 10 mo ago

It's been a few years, but I seem to remember reading on the S&W forum about several people who sent guns in to S&W and they refused to return them because they were unsafe.

Whatever, it's simply a smart business decision to not take in for work any firearm that you cannot repair.
You can write your own script for this.......
A gun is returned and a customer claims the company broke their gun and wants money.
A gun is returned and someone gets hurt, it's the companies fault.
And on and on.

Smart move, just don't take it in, And Colt like most gun makers won't take it..

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po18guy

· #12 · 10 mo ago

OP: Save your money and buy a black version too. With patience, you can have it both ways.

BusaDave

· #13 · 10 mo ago

Python pony said:
one thing I don’t get about this post,

I heard they are still developing dlc process, but my question is will they offer finish job for customers who already owns ss python or gotta order the entire gun that’s already customized?

That is not done in house. Not even being looked into. Yes, CCS has sent some out for DLC.

Max_Power

· #14 · 10 mo ago

BusaDave said:
That is not done in house. Not even being looked into. Yes, CCS has sent some out for DLC.

It would be nice to know who did the job. Most places that offer DLC for handguns (and watches) give you a matte finish. This is the first time I ever saw a highly polished DLC and iffen I knew who done it, I'd be all over that like Oprah on a baked ham. Handguns, shogun barrels, etc.

BusaDave

· #15 · 10 mo ago

Max_Power said:
It would be nice to know who did the job. Most places that offer DLC for handguns (and watches) give you a matte finish. This is the first time I ever saw a highly polished DLC and iffen I knew who done it, I'd be all over that like Oprah on a baked ham. Handguns, shogun barrels, etc.

Well the polishing is done by the CCS and it then goes out for DLC.

Max_Power

· #16 · 10 mo ago

BusaDave said:
Well the polishing is done by the CCS and it then goes out for DLC.

Since the trick is in the polishing, I betcha the CCS can polish up the gun real purdy-like and then the buyer could ship it out for DLC on his own account.

BusaDave

· #17 · 10 mo ago

Max_Power said:
Since the trick is in the polishing, I betcha the CCS can polish up the gun real purdy-like and then the buyer could ship it out for DLC on his own account.

Doubt that. That is not going to happen. For the CCS to polish it will be $$$$$ to do this and with the backlog the polisher has, not a chance. You can always call and ask.

Max_Power

· #18 · 10 mo ago

BusaDave said:
Doubt that. That is not going to happen. For the CCS to polish it will be $$$$$ to do this and with the backlog the polisher has, not a chance. You can always call and ask.

according to one other person here, Colt polishes the ss using a tumbler, which is not expensive. Anyways, it appears to be a moot point as Coltsdad says that DLC pythons are on the way.

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BusaDave

· #19 · 10 mo ago

Max_Power said:
according to one other person here, Colt polishes the ss using a tumbler, which is not expensive. Anyways, it appears to be a moot point as Coltsdad says that DLC pythons are on the way.

The process for the production is to use vibratory media for polishing not to "tumble" which is completely different and not even close to the same process.

Max_Power

· #20 · 10 mo ago

BusaDave said:
The process for the production is to use vibratory media for polishing not to "tumble" which is completely different and not even close to the same process.

again, moot point. DLC is going to be offered by Colt so who cares how it is polished.

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